Obamacare Upheld !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AK Forty Seven, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. To provide healthcare to the 50 million Americans who don't have it
     
    #121     Jun 28, 2012
  2. #122     Jun 28, 2012
  3. So when the Blood or the Cripp gets out of prison when he's 30 yo, where does he pick up his insurance card? Does it just come in the mail? What's his co pay? Just curious
     
    #123     Jun 28, 2012
  4. I've heard that before, i just posed the question wrong. I know and you know that this was done, in an extremely partisan and dirty way, to grant the govt more power. i just been drinking since about 11am or so...
     
    #124     Jun 28, 2012
  5. i meant the public option, as stated in my previous post.
     
    #125     Jun 28, 2012
  6. Brass

    Brass

    I don't see why. If you readily accept the need for car insurance if you drive a vehicle, then you should have no trouble accepting the rationale. Is it "Un-American" for the government to insist you have auto insurance if you own and drive a car?
     
    #126     Jun 28, 2012
  7. And how is obamacare more effective or better than expanding medicaid, which already exists, and we already pay taxes for? back in circles to my original question, what is the specific purpose of obamacare?

    and by the way out of that 50 mil, how many can afford insurance but don't WANT it (if the # is even that high)?
     
    #127     Jun 28, 2012
  8. Its not ,nobody claims it is.The votes weren't there to expand medicaid so dems took what they could get to get all Americans healthcare.republicans are against expanding medicaid,they are currently trying to end it with the Ryan plan
     
    #128     Jun 28, 2012
  9. Brass

    Brass

    If you decide to live in civilized society, there are mutually beneficial arrangements that we collectively agree to. Otherwise, you are always free to go and live in the woods. I think FT answered your question well.
    Recent evidence suggests that insurance companies are incapable of doing so in an acceptably comprehensive manner, left to their own devices.
     
    #129     Jun 28, 2012
  10. Ok and this is my gripe, we already have medicaid to support the poor. Instead of expanding medicaid, the dem congress and pres decided it was BETTER somehow to pass a mandate/tax forcing ALL OF US to buy insurance. Well for the people that don't pay taxes, we are going to have to buy them insurance, so why THE FUCK do we need both medicaid and obamacare?

    Answer: we don't. They should have tried to make a national high risk pool by offering the providers incentives, like tort reform or selling interstate without a license, tax breaks etc, in addition to medicare for the poor. that benefits both the system and preserves our freedom. Issuing an ultimatum that declares you either buy insurance or pay a tax, simply is not reasonable in a FREE country. wtf.
     
    #130     Jun 28, 2012