Obama To Break Campaign Pledge Of Not Raising Taxes On Those Making Less Than 250k?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rc822, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Why don't you take a look at the infrastructure jobs that were slated to receive stimulus monies and then tell me if any have started. It will take only one to refute your absolutist statement, with all its exclamation points. This is what I mean about "handwringing".
     
    #11     Feb 11, 2010
  2. http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/republicans-taut-stimulus-plan-after-th



    Last week, Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) slammed President Obama’s recovery and reinvestment plan. “Hold on to your wallets folks because with the passage of this trillion-dollar baby the Democrats will be poised to spend as much as $3 trillion in your tax dollars,” Bond said. “Unfortunately, this bill stimulates the debt, it stimulates the growth of government, but it doesn’t stimulate jobs,” Bond insisted.

    However, today Bond is touring Missouri to tout the very stimulus plan he railed against. In a press release, Bond boasted about an amendment he included in the bill to provide more funding for affordable housing — and that will create jobs:

    Last week, Bond led a bipartisan group of Senators in introducing an amendment to help provide needy families affordable housing. Bond’s amendment provides $2 billion to fund low-income housing tax credit (LIHTC) projects that have been stalled by the financial credit crisis. As part of the Democrats’ spending bill now signed into law, the Senate unanimously accepted Bond’s provision. […]

    This provision will have a real impact in Missouri, especially for low-income, working families in need of safe and affordable housing. … Bond’s amendment will save more than 700 housing units and create 3,000 new jobs in Missouri.

    “This is the type of emergency stimulus spending we should be supporting — programs that will create jobs now and help families,” Bond said.

    I love the fact that Goober Graham is gladly taking the money:

    – Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who also campaigned ardently against the bill, said he would nevertheless gladly accept its funds for his state. “You don’t want to be crazy here,” he said.

    And Digby finds this nugget about the psycho right wing Govenors that may want to refuse some of the money. Stupidly, Clyburn , inserted a clause in the bill that says legislator's can override the Governor and accept the money. I know he was just looking out for the people in the states where Republicans are more interested in playing politics than helping their constituents.


    In fact, governors who reject some of the stimulus aid may find themselves overridden by their own legislatures because of language Clyburn included in the bill that allows lawmakers to accept the federal money even if their governors object.
    He inserted the provision based on the early and vocal opposition to the stimulus plan by South Carolina's Republican governor, Mark Sanford. But it also means governors like Sanford and Louisiana's Bobby Jindal — a GOP up-and-comer often mentioned as a potential 2012 presidential candidate — can burnish their conservative credentials, knowing all the while that their legislatures can accept the money anyway.

    I guess these people are placing their political bets on the economy not being so bad that they get blamed, but still bad enough that they can blame Obama. It's quite tight rope they're walking.

    If the Democrats were as ruthless and reckless with other people's lives as the Republicans are, they wouldn't have put that clause in the legislation and would have let the Republicans pay the price for this nonsense. You know if the shoe were on the other foot, the GOP kamikazees would have forced the Dems to bear the brunt of such a decision. But then, that's the reason why the country is in this catastrophic mess in the first place isn't it? The Republicans just don't give a damn about the people they are supposed to be representing.
     
    #12     Feb 11, 2010
  3. Obama is a liar, pure and simple. No better than Bill clinton or, for that matter, Bush 41. When you make a pledge like that, voters have every right to throw you out of office for violating it.

    Voters were incredibly naive to believe him, when all the evidence was that he would in fact attempt to raise taxes on anyone with a private sector job.

    The 'stimulus" is nothing but a slush fund for democrats. That's largely why they have been so slow to spend it. They want to time it for the elections. Much of it went to "save" make-work government jobs that bankrupt states like California will have to eventually cut anyway.
     
    #13     Feb 11, 2010
  4. The prez has a problem and I'm here to help. They've lost whatever support they had for their silly and corrupt heath care plan. Start over at a later date. What the people want now is as follows:
    1. A full time, decent paying job to replace the one that was stolen from them. Still doesn't seem to be a plan in place to get this done.
    2. Hold accountable those that wrecked the economy and stole those jobs. Still hasn't been done, not even a little. A whole host of political and corporate slugs need prison time.
    3. Get the hell out of Iraq and Afganistan, NOW! These wars have produced nothing of value, there isn't anything or anyone over there worth fighting or dieing for. It's bleeding life and treasure dry, all the while with diminished returns. We get attacked again, program launch codes, missiles away, next!
    4. Somewhere down the line the people would like to see affordable health insurance premiums. Make it happen without all the fine print and backroom deals. Any bill over 200 pages is too much, do it over till you get it right.
    Do these things Mr. President and you win 2012 in a landslide, and more importantly, the country prospers once again.


    Poll Shows Eroding Support for Health Reform
    THURSDAY, Feb. 11 (HealthDay News) -- While half of Americans want some kind of health reform in the next two years, nearly 40 percent say it would be a good thing if the legislation proposed by the Democrats and President Barack Obama never materializes. And one-quarter aren't sure if health reform would be good or bad for the country, a new Harris Interactive/HealthDay poll finds.
    "Essentially what they're saying is we want reform but we don't trust or like what we're seeing now," said Humphrey Taylor, chairman of The Harris Poll, a service of Harris Interactive.
    While reforming health care is still important for many Americans, the most pressing issue is fixing the troubled economy, the poll found.
    When asked to pick two top priorities for the President and Congress, about 8 out of 10 of respondents, regardless of their political persuasion, picked reducing unemployment and creating new jobs as a top priority over the next few months. Among Democrats, health reform came next (59 percent), while among Republicans preventing a terrorist attack in the United States (64 percent) took second place.
    Voters still want health reform, "but they don't trust this legislation," added Mark C. Blum, executive director of America's Agenda: Health Care for All, a coalition of business, labor union and government leaders. The process wasn't transparent enough, it was fraught with deals with special interests and, ultimately, consumers had very little understanding of the details of the reform proposals, he said.
     
    #14     Feb 11, 2010
  5. Mercor

    Mercor

    The Stimulus for the most part .did save Government jobs such as teachers, administrators, fire / police.

    These are the jobs we need to cut back on. States can't afford to carry this bloated payroll...so this federal stimulus did nothing but make the problem worse,
    We need a stimulus that will cut Government jobs and create private sector jobs.
     
    #15     Feb 11, 2010
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    This raises another issue, perhaps for another thread, but I'm off to the local grocery store with a bat to smash the scan-it-yourself robots they've installed. After that, the bank's ATMs. If you don't hear from me in a while...
     
    #16     Feb 11, 2010
  7. :D :D :D
     
    #17     Feb 11, 2010
  8. Thank you, please come to my neighborhood.
     
    #18     Feb 11, 2010
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'm curious, assuming you mean that you don't care for the robots either... you don't like them because they are more trouble than a live body right now, or you don't like how they are replacing people?
     
    #19     Feb 11, 2010
  10. A little of both. Service has become a synonym for "unnecessary expense" to much of corporate America. Customers tend to eel differently. Look how well offshoring tech support worked for Dell. Or how the shopping experience at Home Depot changed when Nardelli and his spreadsheet jockeys came on board.
     
    #20     Feb 11, 2010