Obama: See no evil?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hapaboy, May 28, 2008.

  1. blah, blah, blah....still waiting for you to provide quotes from McCain in which he states he does not want to find and capture Bin Laden as you have asserted.

    *crickets chirping*
     
    #21     May 30, 2008
  2. McBush's obsession is with Iraq in his attempt to change the past...he says nothing about Bin Laden, makes no plans to capture him...just like the feathered fellows he flocks with.

    A pathetic old Bush licking man he is...

    <img src=http://www.mikepiperreport.com/Articles_Archive/AmericanFreePress/AFP2008_01-06/Art/AFP_20080331_p11_John_McCain;_Joe_Lieberman.jpg>

     
    #22     May 30, 2008
  3. Only b/c Obama wants to give Osama a chance to change his ways and apologize for 9/11 or perhaps to give him a BJ. Obama's limp wristed approach to foreign policy will only serve to increase attacks on American targets both at home and abroad. Bullies don't want to fight someone that will fight back, they want to fight those that don't have the backbone to do anything about it.
     
    #23     May 30, 2008
  4. Yannis

    Yannis

    The Latest Fiasco
    From http://777denny.wordpress.com/

    "What do Barack Obama, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Otis Moss lll and father Michael Pfleger have in common?

    How about they all have crossed paths with Trinity United Church of Christ.

    Each of these people has been widely accepted at TUCC. Each has been praised at TUCC. Each has benefited by attending or being associated with TUCC with Rev. Wright perhaps getting one of the best deals with a ten-thousand-foot house in an exclusive, very white neighborhood including up to a $3 million allowance.

    So the question becomes; what exactly IS TUCC and what does it teach?

    This was taken directly from Trinity United Church of Christ’s website in the “Talking Points section, as it was written by Barack Obama’s mentor, Jeremiah Wright:“…The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

    Here is an excerpt from that book.

    “Christ is black therefore not because of some cultural or psychological need of black people, but because and only because Christ really enters into our world where the poor were despised and the black are, disclosing that he is with them enduring humiliation and pain and transforming oppressed slaves into liberating servants.

    ”Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”

    TUCC is where the pastor’s page reprinted anti-Israel writings, including one column by none other than Hamas leader, Mousa Abu Marzook.

    The column by the Hamas leader, Mousa Abu Marzook, asked: “Why should any Palestinian recognise the monstrous crimes carried out by Israel’s founders and continued by its deformed modern apartheid state?“

    The 2007 issue of Trumpet Magazine, which was founded in 1982 by Obama’s church and has Wright’s daughters serving as publisher and executive editor, says that “when Minister Louis Farrakhan speaks, America listens…For his commitment to truth, education and leadership, we honor Minister Louis Farrakhan with the Rev. Jeremiah W. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Award,” Wright goes on to say in the article. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”

    One of the things Farrakhan said that wasn’t particularly uniting, helpful or honest was when he said that “white people are potential humans - they haven’t evolved yet,” in the Philadelphia Inquirer in March 2000.

    Farrakhan also said, “They call them terrorists, I call them freedom fighters.”

    Louis also said he “heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the [New Orleans’] levee breach…It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry.”

    O course, Wright’s wrongs are too numerous to mention here.

    “We’re going to fight for the voice of the prophetic tradition,” Moss said. “You cannot caricature Rev. Wright. This is an attack on the collective black church.”

    “You have ministers who relate with interesting rhetoric through their personalities and hyperbole to highlight ideas and ideals,” Moss said. “The ideas are the truth, and those are wrapped around metaphors and rhetoric. Sometimes, that’s supposed to make you incredibly uncomfortable; sometimes, it makes you fall out on the floor and crack up laughing. It’s really an art form when it’s done well.”

    Now we have father Michael Pfleger from St. Sabina Catholic Church in Chicago come to TUCC as a guest speaker in a “service” complaining that white people have culpability for the sins of their “fathers’” because of the so-called benefits white people gained through past black oppression, which mainly came about through the help of the Democratic party. Isn’t guilt by skin-color affiliation racism? The British raped the Irish for hundreds of years. What should we be doing about that?

    Father Michael Pfleger said this:

    “I must now to address the one who says, ‘don’t hold me responsible for what my ancestors did.’ But you have enjoyed the benefits of what your ancestors did! And unless you are ready to give up the benefits — Throw away your 401 fund! [sic] Throw away your trust fund! Throw away all the money that been put away in the company you walked into ’cause your daddy and your granddaddy and your great grandaddy —”

    (screaming at the top of his lungs)

    “Unless you are willing to give up the benefits, then you must be responsible for what was done in your generation! ‘Cause you are the beneficiary of this insurance policy!

    “(garbled) expose white entitlement. And supremacy, wherever it raises its head. I said before, I really don’t want to make this political, because you know I’m really very unpolitical.

    “When Hillary was crying, and people said that was put on, I really don’t believe it was put on. I really believe that she just always thought, ‘this is mine. I’m Bill’s wife. I’m white, and this is mine. I just gotta get up and step into the plate.’

    “Then out of nowhere, ‘I’m Barack Obama!’”

    Imitating Hillary’s response, screaming at the top of his lungs again, he continues, ‘Ah, damn! Where did you come from? I’m white! I’m entitled! There’s a black man stealing my show!’

    (mocks crying)

    “She wasn’t the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!”

    “I’m sorry. I don’t want in any more trouble. The live-streaming just went out again.” Obama said this: As I have traveled this country, I’ve been impressed not by what divides us, but by all that unites us. That is why I am deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger’s divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn’t reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause,” the statement said.

    Pfleger issued his own apology: “I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them.”

    Yea, like I readily believe the apologies…" :)
     
    #24     May 30, 2008
  5. Yannis

    Yannis

  6. As usual, the facts reveal your pronouncements to have as much validity as those from a slimy used car salesman.

    Just several days ago:

    From The Times
    May 16, 2008

    McCain: I will win Iraq, kill bin Laden and start President's Question Time
    John McCain

    (Mary Altaffer/AP)

    John McCain declared yesterday that within four years of being elected president he would have won the Iraq war, killed or captured Osama bin Laden, halted the nuclear ambitions of Iran and North Korea and introduced British-style Prime Minister’s Questions in Congress.

    The Republican nominee-elect, setting out his stall for an election campaign against the Democrats, used an ambitious speech to define their differences and look back on his first term from the vantage point of 2013.

    Mr McCain said that his first term would be marked by the “capture or death of Osama bin Laden and his chief lieutenants”. He added that there “still has not been a major terrorist attack in the US since September 11, 2001”.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3941600.ece

    Too recent for you? How about earlier this year:

    I'll capture bin Laden - McCain

    07/01/2008 11:14

    Washington - Republican presidential hopefuls Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romeny traded blows over taxes and immigration in a debate on Sunday, while New Hampshire polls leader John McCain said he would capture Osama bin-Laden if elected....

    McCain, who has also taken a drubbing in Romney's ad blitz, appeared to remain above the fray, striking a more conciliatory tone and extolling his past military record as giving him experience in dealing with Osama bin Laden and other terrorist threats.

    "I know how to get him, and I will get him," said the Vietnam War veteran of the al-Qaeda leader.

    http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2247340,00.html

    Heck, he has been saying this for some time, and your beloved Democratic party has taken umbrage with it:

    October 31, 2007

    WASHINGTON - On a three day swing through New Hampshire, John McCain once again highlighted a major contradiction in his campaign rhetoric. While McCain often refers to Osama Bin Laden and has promised to capture him if elected President, he won't answer what he would do differently from the Bush Administration...

    On the trail, McCain has avoided explaining how he would capture Bin Laden,

    http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/10/mccain_still_ha.php

    Sorry, Troll. You've been outed yet again, but keep trying. There are those moonbats here who believe what you say hook, line, and sinker. Perhaps you should start a cult somewhere, an offshoot of Scientology, perhaps. L. Ron Hubbard meets Code Pink....
     
    #26     May 30, 2008
  7. "I will win Iraq, kill bin Laden and start President's Question Time, I will put a chicken in every pot, blah, blah, blah."

    Real specific from John McBush...

    4 More years of failed Bush policy...

    <img src=http://uglyrepublicans.com/republicans/United-States/John-McCain/john-mccain-pirate.jpg>

    It is interesting to note that all I have done is talked about McCain, and you continue to employ ad hominem insults.

    Things never change, apparently...

    "Sorry, Troll. You've been outed yet again, but keep trying. There are those moonbats here who believe what you say hook, line, and sinker. Perhaps you should start a cult somewhere, an offshoot of Scientology, perhaps. L. Ron Hubbard meets Code Pink...."

    Perhaps it is that you view McBush as your daddy protector, and if someone points out what a flawed daddy he really is, you need to go on the personal attack route.

    It doesn't work of course, doesn't really make you feel any better...

    Not interested in your flame war stuff, if you have anything of value....



     
    #27     May 30, 2008
  8. As usual, when the troll is outed for making untrue statements, it is unable to acknowledge that it was wrong.

    Notice, too, how having been proven wrong, it tries to change the basis for the argument entirely. It is now about McCain being unspecific, NOT that McCain never said anything about capturing Bin Laden in the first place as it originally asserted.

    What is not surprising in the least is that the troll also tries to play the victim card for having been proven wrong, and accuses the other side of ad hominem. Never mind that it sees fit to post picture after picture, often of self-created Photoshop caricatures....

    Hypocrisy, evasion, obfuscation. Classic tactics straight from the Zzzztroll manual.

    Things never change, apparently.
     
    #28     May 30, 2008
  9. Flame on Johnny Storm...

     
    #29     May 30, 2008
  10. Grow up.
     
    #30     May 30, 2008