Obama On Economy: I Don't Control The Weather

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. Sorry to rain on you guys little parade but Obama is going down as one of the greatest presidents ever
     
    #11     Dec 10, 2011
  2. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20009531-503544.html


    Scholars Rank Obama the 15th Best President


    A group of presidential scholars has ranked President Obama as the 15th best U.S. president of all time, a new survey shows, while his predecessor, President George W. Bush, is relegated to the bottom five.

    Mr. Obama also has an advantage in the rankings over President Ronald Reagan, who came in 18th, but President Bill Clinton beats them both in 13th place.

    The Siena College Research Institute's Survey of U.S. Presidents, which has been conducted five times since 1982, asked 238 presidential scholars to rank the 43 U.S. presidents on a number of characteristics.

    The presidents were given rankings for six personal attributes (background, imagination, integrity, intelligence, luck and willingness to take risks), five forms of ability (compromising, executive, leadership, communication and overall), and eight areas of accomplishment (economic, other domestic affairs, working with Congress, party leadership, Supreme Court appointments, executive branch appointments, avoiding mistakes and foreign policy).

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt was ranked the best president ever, followed by Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

    While he has only been in office a year and a half, Mr. Obama was rated highly in areas such as imagination, communication and intelligence.

    By comparison, Mr. Bush was ranked 23rd when the survey was conducted in 2002, after his first year in office. This year, Mr. Bush was ranked 39th after receiving poor ratings in communication, foreign policy, intelligence, the economy and his ability to compromise. Mr. Bush's best ranking came in the category of "luck," for which he was rated the 18th best president.

    The four presidents who were ranked more poorly than Mr. Bush were Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding, and Franklin Pierce.
     
    #12     Dec 10, 2011
  3. When Obama is done expect him to be ranked even higher


    Obama will be credited with ending Bush's depression,universal healthcare,ending 2 wars,killing Bin Laden,keeping the country safe from major terrorist attacks,protecting amercan ships from pirates like Jefferson did with the Barbary Pirates,taking out numerous terrorists ,major nuclear treaty with Russia etc
     
    #13     Dec 10, 2011
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Only in the eyes of those naive enough to believe that.

    Is this a copy of the sweet nothings you whisper into the ear of your full size anatomically correct Obama doll every night?
     
    #14     Dec 10, 2011
  5. I know thats the best you can come up with when it hurts you so bad that Obama will rank as a great president :( Sorry luke,get over it
     
    #15     Dec 10, 2011
  6. 22nd even with only 1 term


    http://www.baylor.edu/pr/news.php?action=story&story=98755



    Obama: Our 22nd Greatest President?
    Aug. 23, 2011


    As if President Barack Obama doesn't already have enough to worry about, a statistical analysis of presidential ranking surveys suggests that he is likely to be viewed as an "average" president by expert evaluators if he serves only one term, according to a Baylor University researcher.

    Under these conditions, Obama is predicted to land at the 22nd overall spot on the ranking list -- between William McKinley and George H.W. Bush. This would dash the President's self-professed hope of being viewed as "a really good one-term president" if he loses in November 2012, according to conclusions based upon research by Curt Nichols, Ph.D., an assistant professor of political science at Baylor.

    Nichols will present his research on Sept. 4 at the annual meeting of the American Political Science Association in Seattle.

    On the flip side, if Obama is re-elected and seen as the transformational president he seeks to be, he is likely to be viewed as a "Near Great" president and land at the fourth overall spot on the ranking list -- one place below George Washington and one above Thomas Jefferson, Nichols said.

    Nichols' research, using a statistical method known as regression analysis, evaluates presidential ranking polls conducted by The Wall Street Journal, C-SPAN and the Siena Research Institute. He found that eight factors are consistently used by experts to give presidents their rating scores.

    The rating scores of presidents increase:

    • With the number of years they serve

    • When they are recognized as wartime leaders

    • When they successfully transform the political landscape

    • When they are a member of the founding fathers

    • When they are considered a progressive in "pursuit of equal justice for all"

    • When they are assassinated progressives, such as Abraham Lincoln or John F. Kennedy

    The rating scores of presidents decrease:

    • When the president is impeached, resigns or has an administration noted for major scandal

    • When they either push the nation into political crisis or fail to lift the country out of one

    "Even as one-term president, Obama would be expected to receive credits for serving four years and being both a wartime president and a progressive," Nichols said. "However, he most likely would be penalized for failing to lift the nation out of crisis."

    Research reveals that expert evaluators do not make distinctions between presidents who cause crises, like George W. Bush, and those who fail to lift the nation out of them, like Jimmy Carter.

    Nichols cautioned that the analysis only reveals the factors experts use in their evaluations. It does not suggest that these are the criteria that should be used.

    Contact: Terry Goodrich, Assistant Director of Media Communications, (254) 710-3321
     
    #16     Dec 10, 2011
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Getting thrown out on his dumbo ear would mean a rating of 22nd? LOL
    Which BTW would put him in the 50th percentile. Hardly a position of "greatness" now is it?


    Looks like more of a question than a statement of fact.

    Anyway didn't you post some BS about Odumbo being ranked 15th earlier?
    Now he's (supposedly) 22nd? Apparently his greatness rankings are falling as fast as his approval rating.
     
    #17     Dec 10, 2011


  8. A few presidents are in the top 25 winning only 1 term moron.Doesn't matter though as Obama will be be a 2 termer
     
    #18     Dec 10, 2011
  9. Not a big difference between 15 and 22 out of 44.He certainly wont be among the worst as you buffoons stated
     
    #19     Dec 10, 2011
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    The "top 25" LOL! There has only been 44.

    According to you then they are nearly all "great" presidents.

    You're grasping at straws in a vain attempt to desperately hang on to your delusion that Odumbo has been or will be considered a "great" president.
     
    #20     Dec 10, 2011