Obama major liar about healthcare

Discussion in 'Politics' started by maxpi, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. skylr33

    skylr33

    Insider trading is so full of shit with his posts. But then again, what would you expect from a douche bag , liberal, Obama ass licking troll.~~~~
    This health care bill isn't going to pass, even if these moron Demo'craps' try to use reconciliation. Many senate Demo'craps' are not on board with the "furor". Even Independents like Joe Lieberman have now come out against it. With each passing day, members of the dictator-in-chiefs own party have expressed major concerns over the bill.
    Obama's Waterloo will be here very soon!!! Of course, he'll point the finger at Republicans, when it will really be his own party that sinks his presidency. lol The douche bag Demo'craps have all the power to pass it, so go ahead and do it. lol Of course they won't, because that will guarantee two things: Obama will be a one term president, and come 2010 & 2012, the Republicans will be in control of Congress.
    No matter which way this health care thing goes, it translates into "Political Suicide" for the Demo'craps'. If they pass it, their history. If they don't pass it, their looked at as failures, plus the American people will not let them hold majorities in Congress any longer due to them drafting such moronic health bills that will ration care, and spend us into oblivion. They will immediately put Republicans in to institute a check and balance system on the radical-in-chief. In addition, the American people know that this clown Obama will have spent more tax payer money by the end of his first year in office, than Bush spent in his entire eight years.
    Bottom line, the Demo'craps' are finished no matter what happens. Good times are on the horizon America. We will get our country back very soon. :D
     
    #11     Aug 25, 2009
  2. Says the dumb ass who cant read,gets called on it then tries to erase his post






     
    #12     Aug 25, 2009
  3. A solution has to be found. Unfortunately, neither party has one that makes any sense.
     
    #13     Aug 25, 2009
  4. You are like the people who seize on some obvious hyperbole by someone like Rush or Ann Coulter. They subject it to a literal analysis and then triumphantly pronounce it as untrue and the person who said it a liar. "Senator" al Frnaken devoted an entrie book to this sort of nonsense, but he had to make up most of it.

    The fact is that the obama health care plan envisions a government takeover of health care. Initially, it is via the so-called public option, which is intended to subsidize those who lack coverage. Clearly illegal immigrants will be eligible to take part in it. It will be financed by higher taxes on the shrinking percentage who pay taxes and by rationing care, principally care now received by the elderly.

    A more plausible defense of obama's plan would be to claim that illegals will get nothing they are not already getting. That would be more or less true, since all they have to do now is show up at an ER and demand to be treated. They can either give a fake name, the one on their bogus SS card, or give their real name and refuse to pay, since they are judgment proof. Of course, obama's plan will greatly expand the range of services they will receive courtesy of the taxpayers, including abortions, mental health counseling and drugs, physical therapy, at home care, drugs and who knows what else.

    You have to wonder how clueless some of these supposed fact check sites are, the ones that are not run by the White House or Soros that is. They say the claim that there will be rationing is false, because "there is nothing in the bill about rationing." That ignores the larger issue that every socialized system utilizes rationing and that Obama's claim to be able both to cover 45 million poeple who are now uncovered and to cut costs at the same time is preposterous on its face. Of course, there will be rationing, and the people who will suffer are the ones who have paid into the system for decades through private insurance and medicare. Now when they need procedures, they will be referred to an end of life counselor. Most of them are not obama supporters though, so who cares.
     
    #14     Aug 25, 2009
  5. If Insurance companies did the right thing this wouldn't be necessary.Half of all personal bankruptcies are due to medical bills,by many who had insurance and were fucked over one way or another by their insurance company

    A man who has his family covered by his employers insurance loses his job,his wife has cancer,when he loses his Insurance no other company will insure her do to her having a pre existing condition.

    Alot of you guys say you don't want government bureaucrats deciding your health care,right now you have insurance companies doing it.There is a long list of people who were turned down doctor advised treatment due to it being experimental in the insurance company's eyes or they had to have emergency surgery but their policy has a 3,000 a day limit or they didn't get pre approval or they went to a hospital out of the network etc

    This shit has to stop.Obama is simply giving people who have been fucked over by insurance companies a option to buy themselves a Medicaid plan.

    Republicans had 8 years to fix it their way,they did nothing .If you don't like Obamas plan you should be mad at Republicans for not doing it their way when they had the chance
     
    #15     Aug 25, 2009
  6. A pre-existing condition is a legit reason to refuse service. If you have a history of DUI's, then you won't get insurance that covers damages to your car. All it's gonna do is cover the other person. This is reasonable, IMHO.

    So I don't see a problem with that.

    Also, medical costs are the only reason? C'mon, it's the total expenditures. The only thing a reasonable person should be borrowing for is your house. Everything else should be cash.

    Lose your job? Sell the boat, car, motorcycle, etc. Put your kids into 1 room and take in a boarder. Still can't make it? Move out and rent out your house, go live in an apartment. Still can't? Sell the house.

    People want to extend their lifestyles beyond the point that is sustainable due to pride. Fuck pride. How proud does that bancruptcy make ya feel?
     
    #16     Aug 25, 2009
  7. Exactly what we should be eliminating, these leeching middlemen.
    The HealthCare Ins. Industry increased profit over the last 5 years at a rate of 1000%. Bill McGuire former CEO of United Health Care got a 1.1 BILLION dollar golden parachute after being indicted for back dating options. Get your priorities in order.
     
    #17     Aug 25, 2009
  8. I agree a pre existing condition is a legit reason,but are people just supposed to be left to die ?Seems that would be some sort of death panel.Cant get ins and don't have a boat to sell then the panel rules you die

    Should a hard working American lose everything they ever worked for due to an illness?imo no

    We shouldn't force ins compinies to cover people due to pre existing conditions?thats fine with me,thats why there should be a government plan.I think like car insurance is mandatory so should health ins,that takes away from people only getting ins when they get sick

    Just like home owners ins companies wont insure areas like new Orleans and Florida for floods,there is flood ins is offered by government,should be the same with health ins.Citizens of this country should not be left to die are lose everything they worked for because they cant get health care.Health care should not be a for profit business imo
     
    #18     Aug 25, 2009
  9. I'm all about free markets, but this heath care issue is the first time I side with the government.

    When you pay $20,000 for a broken arm, something is wrong with the system. I rather sacrifice some quality to have more rational prices.

    I can't believe people are opposed to change when prices are so ridiculous already... Can it really get any worse? You can't be a conservative on 100% of the issues guys.
     
    #19     Aug 25, 2009

  10. Exactly, we're trying to have a civilization here. Mutants get out of the way.
     
    #20     Aug 25, 2009