Obama is the Biggest "Rock Star" Politician since Kennedy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by aeliodon, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Obama is the Biggest Rock Star Politician since Kennedy.

    Sure the man has his flaws - but so did Kennedy. There are lots of high hopes for this man and if he fills his cabinet with the right people then he can the great president he is expected to be.

    I'm not a demo/lib.

    And I am kinda racist.

    But I'm willing to take a chance on this guy. I probably will not vote in November (that is another issue). But if I were to, it would be for him.

    He drew a crowd of 200,000 in Germany. That is unbelievable.
  2. Cutten


    Indeed. I was going to post about this but you beat me to it.

    Political charisma > all. Policies, voting record, race, sex, age - don't mean shit, if you can speak and inspire people. IMO you guys are lucky Obama is not an ideologue. If he was a dyed in the wool socialist you would be in deep shit. But IMO he's more likely to follow the JFK/Clinton model - enough socialism to placate his Dem followers, but otherwise a pragmatist/centrist. Pabst will have a heart attack on election night once the results are in, but after 2 years he will realise Obama is only a tad more socialist than Bush (the fakest "right-wing" president ever). You can tell by the way he talks about Iran, Afghanistan etc. A neo-commie would be falling over themselves to worship some middle-east radicals, but Obama wants to kick their ass if they step out of line - and not in the knee-jerk WWIII-loving way that neo-fascist Hillary did.

    Obama will win and the US will repair its image abroad, the economy will recover (nothing to do with him but voters will think it is - just like Clinton in the early 90s), and America will enter a stable period of reasonable prosperity. It'll be like after the UK elected Blair (all the Brit Pabsts thought he would be a commie too - WRONG!), or Brazil elected Lula. The only thing that will fuck this up is if some nutter shoots him.

    This is all from a guy who strongly disagrees with his actual policies. The fact is, a few politicians have "it", and Obama is one of them.

    Fair disclosure - I'm talking my book to some extent, I'm long Obama futures on intrade. Still, you can check my post archive and see I was bullish on him even when he was a 10:1 dog.
  3. Why? Germans have a history of grouping en masse.

  4. McCain probably wouldn't get 500 :D
  5. EDIT: Germans have a history of grouping en masse to listen to snake charmers.
  6. Friday, July 25, 2008

    Kathryn Jean Lopez

    Obama's 'Audacity' Is For Dopes

    Barack Obama at least has one thing right: the author of "The Audacity of Hope" is certainly audacious.

    The junior Illinois senator has been telling us for months now: "We are the hope of the future. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." If I believed that about myself, I'd be pretty audacious. Not to mention messianic.

    And so the political savior went to Berlin to stand on the shoulders of giants, and didn't even have the courtesy to tip his hat to the president of the United States -- Ronald Reagan -- whose monumentally historic rhetoric he adapted ad nauseam, showing an audacious disregard for creativity and originality.

    But the Berlin speech wasn't anything too new -- save the self-reintroduction as a post-national "Citizen of the World." You've heard most of it before. It would be less disturbing if it were merely empty rhetoric signifying everything and nothing, requiring projection on the part of the unformed masses Obama seeks to galvanize, to give it meaning. But his substance is audaciously insulting, on top of the language.

    Hillary Clinton, in retrospect, got a bad, perhaps unfair, rap for being presumptuous. Despite being a workhorse in the Senate and on the campaign trail, she was maligned by many, including this columnist, for her imperial arrogance, for thinking of her campaign as merely part of the inevitable return of the Clintons to their rightful White House. It was an august, foregone conclusion to which Team Clinton certainly did subscribe. But at least she was willing to do the work she needed to do to earn the job. Barack Obama, by comparison, makes Hillary look positively meek, and does so without all the elbow grease. In his mind and in the minds of many a callow Obamamaniac, he is the "inevitable" one.

    "We are the ones we have been waiting for"? Really? If all of American history has been waiting for me to be able to pull a lever for Barack Obama, I might have to rethink the greatness of this fine country. Fortunately I won't have to. I hate to tell Chris Matthews with his tingling leg and all, but Barack Obama is not the source and summit of U.S. history. Barack Obama represents an obnoxiously elitist attitude that reeks of paternalistic government, the kind that folks like Reagan and the late, great William F. Buckley Jr. devoted much of their lives to pushing back, here and abroad.

    Obama's European trip, of course, provided a wide stage for his self-assured pomp and inconsequence. The speech at the Berlin Victory Column furnished the fireworks of the trip, but it -- with its Leni Riefenstahl-like rally posters translated into German -- did not stand alone in audacity. After conducting some would-be freelance diplomacy with the leaders of the Israeli and Palestinian states, Barack Obama presented himself in Europe as president-elect, rather than as a frosh senator who lucked out with a few good choices on either side of the aisle, and who is now clearly in over his head.

    And considering the depth and extent of grief George W. Bush gets for being stubborn, you'd think Obama would show some humility for being on the wrong side of the biggest war story of the last year, the troop surge in Iraq. The surge worked, yet he and his fellow Democrats opposed the considered advice and airtight plan of the commander on the ground in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus. But what did a seasoned warrior know compared to this young politico from Chicago? Community organizing in the Windy City must have made him a military expert.

    Audacity is nothing new to Barack Obama. The book title, "The Audacity of Hope," of course, comes from a speech by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, from whom Obama decided to distance himself when it became clear that he would forever be a political liability if the senator didn't "throw him under the bus," in the parlance of urban wheeling and dealing.

    Audacity can be a beautiful thing. Hope, surely. But when both are rooted in nothing but the well-crafted words (thank you, Obama aide David Axelrod) of a supposed political savior, I, for one, am not signing up, thank you. Say what you will about John McCain, at least we know he's got deep roots in tried and true political virtues: duty, honor, country. Those are more stable principles than the audacity of whatever the Obama team comes up with next.
  7. So Now Obama is Hitler?

    First we had some idiot on National Review suggesting that Barack Obama was a Jewish communist

    and now it's Ben Stein making a ridiculous comparison to Hitler which any German ought to find deeply insulting

    Will the right-wing lunatics please make up their minds? Is Obama a Judeo-communist, a Nazi, an atheist, a Muslim, or all of the above? Nothing better displays the ideological bankruptcy of the GOP today than this relentless resort to outrageous slanders and absurd innuendos: such nonsense is the first and last resort of those who cannot talk of ideas and have no policies of any coherence to offer.

    Frankly, I don't like Obama's left-wing, big government policy proposals at all, but it's hard not to throw my support behind him if the alternative promises to give solace to all these right wing crazies and the numerous vermin who made Jesse Helms out to be some sort of American hero.

    PS: To show how shamelessly inconsistent so many right wingnuts can be, Lisa Schiffren, the very same lunatic who suggested that Obama was a commie Jew just a few months ago, is now comparing Obama's speech in Berlin to Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will"!

    You'd think the idiot would at least take a moment to get her story straight.

  8. ^^Relax, please!!

    As any good moonbat knows, Bush is far worse than Hitler ever was.

    Feel better?

  9. You are a fucking god damned piece of worthless dog shit.
  10. I believe you have misunderstood me.

    Or you are just stupid.

    Yeah, I believe it is the latter. Moonbats like you, in the final stages of Bush Derangement Syndrome and the honeymoon stage of Obama Is the Savior Syndrome, are seldom in a rational state of mind.
    #10     Jul 27, 2008