Obama Increases Nation's Debt $5 Trillion In 39 Weeks

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    You got that right!

    I like George Bush and think he did what needed to be done. But his last two years really piss me off. And, probably not why you think.

    Nancy Pelosi told the President that he wasn't welcome to come to he House! I think he took the 2006 elections as a personal defeat and at that point he stopped defending himself and his actions. During the last two years of the Bush Presidency he allowed Pelosi, Reid and any other liberal with a big mouth to say any lie about his actions and not lift a finger to defend himself. The fact that he sold himself and his party down the river without even a fight just really pissed me off.

    Then, after Pelosi asked for what was an unprecedented stimulus package of $300 billion in November 2008 and then Bush let Paulson talk him into the $1 trillion TARP just because they wanted a number so large it would calm the most pessimistic market participant.

    The final straw was the bailout of GM because Bush believed (or was told) that is what the incoming Obama wanted. He even split the $billions so Obama could continue if he wanted to spend on GM, which he did with all the remaining funds.

    It was the $1 Trillion TARP that made the Democrats get so bold as to make the stimulus nearly $1 Trillion (Actually over $800 Billion).

    I like Bush but his lack of defending himself and his actions the last two months he was in office just infuriate me. (By contrast Obama's actions infuriate me every day!)
     
    #31     Apr 18, 2012
  2. Yannis

    Yannis

    In Bush v. Obama, Bush Wins in a Rout
    Peter Wehner — July 2010


    According to Reuters:
    …Obama said the former president’s “disastrous” policies had driven the U.S. economy into the ground and turned budget surpluses into deficits.
    Obama defended his repeated references to Bush’s policies, saying they were necessary to remind Americans of the weak economy he inherited from Bush in January 2009…

    In the wake of a recession that began roughly seven weeks after President Bush took office, America experienced six years of uninterrupted economic growth and a record 52 straight months of job creation that produced more than 8 million new jobs. During the Bush presidency, the unemployment rate averaged 5.3 percent. We saw labor-productivity gains that averaged 2.5 percent annually — a rate that exceeds the averages of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. Real after-tax income per capita increased by more than 11 percent. And from 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17 percent, a gain of nearly $2.1 trillion.

    As for Obama’s claim that Bush “turned a budget surplus into a deficit”: by January 2001, when Bush was inaugurated, the budget surpluses were already evaporating as the economy was skidding toward recession (it officially began in March 2001). Combined with the devastating economic effects of 9/11, when we lost around 1 million jobs over 90 days, the surplus went into deficit.

    Rather than whine incessantly about the situation, President Bush proposed policies that triggered the kind of sustained growth that saw the deficit fall to 1 percent of GDP ($162 billion) by 2007. Indeed, before the financial crisis of 2008 Bush’s budget deficits were 0.6 percentage points below the historical average.

    Now let’s consider Mr. Obama’s record: an unemployment rate of 9.5 percent, with 131,000 jobs lost in July, during our so-called Recovery Summer (Vice President Biden promised us up to 500,000 new jobs a month back in April). The overall unemployment rate, incorporating people who want jobs but did not look during July, is now 16.5 percent.
    According to J.D. Foster, Obama’s “job deficit” — the difference between current employment and the jobs Obama promised to create by the end of 2010 – stands at a staggering 7.6 million workers. The 2010 deficit is $1.471 trillion, or 10 percent of GDP, while the debt is $9.2 trillion, or 62.7 percent of GDP. (From January 20, 2001, to January 20, 2009, the debt held by the public grew $3 trillion under Bush, from $3.3 trillion to $6.3 trillion; in 20 months, Mr. Obama will add as much debt as Mr. Bush ran up in eight years.) And let’s not forget that the Obama administration passed an $862 billion stimulus package and assured us that unemployment would not exceed 8 percent; instead, unemployment topped 10 percent – a figure higher than what the Obama administration said would occur if the stimulus package wasn’t passed.

    Sales of new homes collapsed earlier this year, sinking 33 percent to the lowest level on record (new home sales rose in June from May’s historical low, but the overall pace was still the second slowest on record, the Commerce Department reported.

    Not surprisingly, the Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index now stands at 50.4. As a reference point, a reading above 90 indicates that the economy is on solid footing, while above 100 signals strong growth. We also learned on Tuesday that the Federal Reserve, downgrading its assessment of the economy, announced that the pace of recovery is “more modest” than it had anticipated. “The Fed noted that high unemployment, modest income growth, lower housing wealth and tight credit were holding back household spending,” according to the Wall Street Journal.

    Consider this as well: according to the Obama administration’s own projections, in the first term we’ll see an average unemployment rate of 9.0 percent, real GDP growth of 1.1 percent, federal spending as a percentage of GDP at 24 percent, budget deficits as a percentage of GDP at 7.8 percent, and the deficits as a percentage of GDP at 6.2 percent (see here).

    These projections are, across-the-board, depressing.
    Now, unlike Obama, whose intellectual dishonesty can be striking at times, some of us are willing to concede that things need to be placed within a proper context. Obama took the oath of office in the wake of a financial collapse that made every economic indicator much worse... But even here, in characterizing what happened, Obama has to present a cartoon image, distorted and disfigured, pretending that it was wholly and completely the fault of President Bush and Republicans.
    In fact, it was a complex set of factors that both Republicans and Democrats were complicit in. In addition, it’s worth noting that Democrats were in control of Congress beginning in January ...

    Second, spending would have been much higher during the Bush presidency if Democrats had their way. To take just one example: Democrats proposed creating a prescription-drug program as an alternative to the one Bush proposed that would have cost a projected $800 billion over 10 years. The Bush prescription-drug law was originally expected to cost half that amount — and today it costs a third less than initial projections because it uses market forces to drive prices down.

    Third, Democrats bear the majority of the blame for blocking reforms that could have mitigated the effects of the housing crisis, which in turn led to the broader financial crisis.

    As Stuart Taylor put it in 2008: The pretense of many Democrats that this crisis is altogether a Republican creation is simplistic and dangerous. It is simplistic because Democrats have been a big part of the problem, in part by supporting governmental distortions of the marketplace through mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, whose reckless lending practices necessitated a $200 billion government rescue [in September 2008]. … Fannie and Freddie appear to have played a major role in causing the current crisis, in part because their quasi-governmental status violated basic principles of a healthy free enterprise system by allowing them to privatize profit while socializing risk.

    The Bush administration warned as early as April 2001 that Fannie and Freddie were too large and overleveraged and that their failure “could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting federally insured entities and economic activity” well beyond housing. Bush’s plan would have subjected Fannie and Freddie to the kinds of federal regulation that banks, credit unions, and savings and loans have to comply with. In addition, Republican Richard Shelby, then chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, pushed for comprehensive GSE (government-sponsored enterprises) reform in 2005. And who blocked these efforts at reforming Fannie and Freddie? Democrats such as Christopher Dodd and Representative Barney Frank, along with the then-junior senator from Illinois, Barack Obama, who backed Dodd’s threat of a filibuster (Obama was the third-largest recipient of campaign gifts from Fannie and Freddie employees in 2004).

    So Obama and his party bear a substantial (though not exclusive) responsibility in creating the economic crisis that Obama himself inherited.
    Even if you set all this aside, Obama entered office knowing what he faced, including a deficit and debt that was exploding. And rather than promote policies that accelerated economic growth and began to address our fiscal entitlement crisis, Obama went in exactly the opposite direction. For example, Obama succeeded in passing a massive new entitlement program (ObamaCare) rather than trimming existing ones.

    Upon taking office, George W. Bush inherited an economy heading for recession and championed policies that made things better; upon taking office, Barack Obama inherited an economy in a deeper recession and championed policies that have made things worse. That is a key different between the two.

    The problem for President Obama is that he and his party cannot escape the record he has amassed. As Karl Rove has written:
    Voters know it is Mr. Obama and Democratic leaders who approved a $410 billion supplemental (complete with 8,500 earmarks) in the middle of the last fiscal year, and then passed a record-spending budget for this one. Mr. Obama and Democrats approved an $862 billion stimulus and a $1 trillion health-care overhaul, and they now are trying to add $266 billion in “temporary” stimulus spending to permanently raise the budget baseline.

    It is the president and Congressional allies who refuse to return the $447 billion unspent stimulus dollars and want to use repayments of TARP loans for more spending rather than reducing the deficit. It is the president who gave Fannie and Freddie carte blanche to draw hundreds of billions from the Treasury. It is the Democrats’ profligacy that raised the share of the GDP taken by the federal government to 24% this fiscal year.
    This is what Obama has done now that he has been given the keys to the car (to use a favorite metaphor of his). He’s taken us from a ditch, one largely of his and his party’s making, and driven us into the side of mountain.

    On his worst day, the economic decisions by Obama’s predecessor were better, more responsible, and more enlightened that anything President Obama has done.

    The Economic Urban Legend carefully created by Barack Obama is breaking apart. According to some polls, more Americans now hold Obama responsible for the bad state of the economy than they do Bush. Bush’s favorability ratings are climbing, while Obama’s approval ratings are tumbling…

    George W. Bush’s presidency was certainly not perfect; none are. But like Truman before him, Bush’s achievements will be vindicated. Unless he changes course fairly dramatically, I rather doubt the same thing will be said about Mr. Obama.
     
    #32     Apr 18, 2012
  3. 2010 was the republicans year .The job performance of the republicans elected in 2010 helps Obama in 2012 though


    http://saintpetersblog.com/2011/06/...rick-scott-least-popular-governor-in-america/


    It’s official: Poll says Rick Scott least popular Governor in America


    From Public Policy Polling: Rick Scott was already tied with John Kasich (Ohio)as the least popular Governor in the country in PPP’s polling but now he has that designation all to himself. 59% of voters disapprove of Scott, up from 55% when PPP last polled the state in March. Only 33% think Scott’s doing a good job.











    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-25/florida-s-scott-least-popular-governor-poll.html


    Florida’s Scott Least Popular Governor



    Florida Republican Governor Rick Scott, whose fiscal 2012 budget reduces school spending and requires pension payments from state workers for the first time, scored the lowest job-approval rating of any governor covered by Quinnipiac University polls.


    Scott’s performance since he took office in January was endorsed by 29 percent of those questioned in a May 17-23 survey released today by Quinnipiac. That’s down from 35 percent in April and lowest of the six governors followed by the pollster, including Republicans John Kasich of Ohio and Tom Corbett of Pennsylvania.





    http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ress-job-approval-gallup-poll-/1#.T48OZtmVO9s

    Poll: Job approval for Congress sinks to new low


    Congress has reached a new low in job-approval ratings, with only 11% of adults giving lawmakers good marks in a new Gallup Poll.

    The job-approval rating is the lowest since Gallup first started asking in 1974 whether Americans approve or disapprove of the way Congress handles its job. Nearly nine in 10 adults, or 86%, give a thumbs down to Congress in the new poll.


    The record-low rating comes as the 112th Congress struggles to complete its first session of the year. House Speaker John Boehner says his GOP majority will reject a two-month extension of a payroll tax cut that is backed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. But he's optimistic a deal can get done by a New Year's Day deadline.

    Boehner told USA TODAY's Susan Davis that he's not surprised by the Gallup numbers. He believes Republicans need to do a better job selling themselves to the public.
     
    #33     Apr 18, 2012
  4. All the stat's don't change the fact that on 9/12/01 Bush had a nation and a world united. He ran that straight into the ground.
    Obama came in to a nation divided, promising unity, and has seen the division grow by leaps and bounds. It's on his watch so he owns it, just like Bush had/has to. Both of them are complete and utter failures at a time when we needed real leaders. The nation is in chaos as a result.
     
    #34     Apr 18, 2012
  5. Yannis

    Yannis

    Bush saved this country from collapse and made sure our economy worked, our friends loved us and our enemies feared us. Obama wasted that legacy and is pushing us to become another Greece minus the history and gorgeous islands.
     
    #35     Apr 18, 2012
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Agree on the Obama stuff. Cannot agree that Bush saved anyone, made sure anything worked or did anything positive for the image of this country abroad.
     
    #36     Apr 18, 2012
  7. You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding. If not, you're in a very small minority, even among conservatives.
    Obama has wasted plenty, but the Bush legacy that you wrote...I mean, I can't even read it without laughing.
     
    #37     Apr 18, 2012
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    Just close your eyes and imagine a world where the Taliban are still running Afghanistan with the help of AlQaeda; Saddam Hussein and his sons are running Iraq with the help of the Russians, the Chinese and the French, in partnership with Iran's ayatollahs; and the rest of the world is bowing down (just like Obama) to the Islamists... That was the UN plan, right? :(
     
    #38     Apr 18, 2012
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Going in after the Taliban and Bin Laden's troup was the right response to 9-11. Iraq had nothing to do with it, and by removing Hussein we've emboldened Iran. We should have left him alone - it was not our business and the cost of it was far, far greater than we could afford (both in lives and money). And for what? The stability in the region we have now?
     
    #39     Apr 18, 2012
  10. Yannis

    Yannis

    Don't really disagree here, but it's a little like Monday morning quartebacking. The plan was to secure a democratic foothold in the Middle East and nudge the region in that direction. Noble idea (worked with Germany and Japan) but failed here. Oh well.
     
    #40     Apr 18, 2012