Obama has reduced dependency on foregin oil

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    #11     Mar 2, 2012
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  3. That makes a very good argument against Ting Tsos post that Obama has done nothing to reduce our dependence on foreign oil so I will leave it at that
     
    #13     Mar 2, 2012
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  5. From 2011.Half true


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    n this item, we’ll check the second bit of evidence to support his contention that his administration hasn’t "shut down" oil production -- that "oil production from federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico reached an all-time high."

    As we did in our other fact-checks of the president’s press conference comments, we turned to the Energy Information Administration, the federal government’s official office for energy statistics. Since Obama said "oil production," we will only look at oil, rather than natural gas or other petroleum products, and since he said, "federal waters," we will ignore production from state waters.

    The agency’s data goes back to 1981. Here are the annual figures for Gulf production in barrels per day.

    1981: 719,000
    1982: 786,000
    1983: 876,000
    1984: 956,000
    1985: 941,000
    1986: 960,000
    1987: 892,000
    1988: 818,000
    1989: 764,000
    1990: 739,000
    1991: 799,000
    1992: 822,000
    1993: 825,000
    1994: 860,000
    1995: 943,000
    1996: 1,021,000
    1997: 1,129,000
    1998: 1,228,000
    1999: 1,354,000
    2000: 1,430,000
    2001: 1,536,000
    2002: 1,556,000
    2003: 1,559,000
    2004: 1,453,000
    2005: 1,282,000
    2006: 1,299,000
    2007: 1,277,000
    2008: 1,152,000
    2009: 1,559,000
    2010: 1,640,000 (estimate)

    So the president is right -- 2010 was the highest ever. But some critics say that isn’t the whole story.

    After the Deepwater Horizon oil spill began in April 2010, the federal government allowed existing wells in the Gulf to continue production but imposed a moratorium on new drilling. While that moratorium has now been lifted, it slowed production, as output began to decrease at old wells and new ones were not on line yet to pick up the slack. Critics say the administration has slow-walked new applications -- a perception Obama challenged at the press conference by arguing that his administration is simply demanding "common-sense standards like proving that companies can actually contain an underwater spill."

    We won’t assess whether the permit approval rate is slower than it ought to be, but the oil-production numbers do tell a story.

    In May 2010, production in the Gulf peaked and then continued to decline for the rest of the year. And the Energy Information Agency expects this decline to continue for at least two years more -- by about 240,000 barrels per day in 2011 and by an additional 200,000 barrels per day in 2012.

    "Since there is a lag time from the time an exploration permit is approved to the time of actual production, and since only a handful of permits for new wells have been granted since April of 2010, it is likely that Gulf of Mexico production will continue to be hit hard in 2012 and beyond," wrote Kyle Isakower, the vice president of regulatory and economic policy at the American Petroleum Institute, in a recent blog post.

    In an interview with PolitiFact, Isakower added that "while the administration is correct" in its statistics, EIA found that "Gulf production peaked in May of 2010, due in large part to permits awarded three or more years earlier, and has been decreasing ever since. This matters because markets don’t look backward, they look forward."

    We think that’s a fair point. Obama is indeed correct about the record-high levels of Gulf oil production in 2010. However, he ignores a downward trend that began in 2010 and that is projected to fall further over at least the next two years. We think it’s problematic to use the record-setting statistic to buttress the notion that Gulf oil production is on a healthy trendline. On balance, we rate Obama’s statement Half True.
     
    #15     Mar 2, 2012
  6. pspr

    pspr

    Hey, that's twice that we agree on something. I'm proud of you for confronting the truth head on and accepting it. I won't say that you have turned the corner but it's a start. :D
     
    #16     Mar 2, 2012
  7. No, it makes a very good argument that you don't know what trash you're posting and, when confronted with links, you lack the character to acknowledge it.
     
    #17     Mar 2, 2012
  8. Those posts are nearly a year old trader 666,I've made over 4,000 posts.I might forget one from a year ago when Tsing posts makes it seem like it was recent
     
    #18     Mar 2, 2012
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Not sure if AK has questioned me in this thread, but if he has, will someone remind him I have him on ignore for his inability to stop posting worthless polls, especially in threads that have nothing to do with them (like the gas thread).
     
    #19     Mar 2, 2012
  10. I know you have me on ignore and I will continue to respond
    to your posts


    BTW,you mentioned in the gas thread that didn't Obama didnt stand a chance in FL then your got your feelings hurt when polls showed otherwise
     
    #20     Mar 2, 2012