Obama Declares Swine Flu a National Emergency

Ricter · Oct 26, 2009

Quote from FightTheFuture:

I take great effort using restraint against insulting voluntary cretins that insult me, but I can't help myself this time, Tigerjaw and Shagi.

Where in my post was any racist statement? Are you two really that daft?
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Your use of the word "bigot", I noted it as well.

tmarket · Oct 26, 2009

Quote from jprad:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/24/health/AP-US-Obama-Swine-Flu.html?_r=1&hp

Observation: why is it, on this college football Saturday, have I not heard of one single Div. I, Ia, II or III team being so impacted by flu-stricken players that their game today will be negatively impacted?

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It is kind of sad that some posters here could be playing politics with public safety and health.

Even Senator Mitch McConnell said he would treat funding request for vaccines in a bipartisan manner.

The flu has hit Cleveland professional sports hard. Nearly one-third the Cavaliersâ 20 basketball players were out ill last week. A dozen members of the Browns football team missed some practice.

Since last winterâs more isolated cases, the expectation that the virus would return with a vengeance has posed a test of the Obama administration. Officials are mindful that the previous administrationâs failure to better prepare for and respond to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 left doubts that dogged President George W. Bush to the end of his term.

In Washington, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader, said on Sunday that if the administration requested additional flu-fighting resources from Congress, âI know weâd be happy to provide it on a totally bipartisan basis,â he told ABCâs âThis Week.â
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KINGOFSHORTS · Oct 26, 2009

Quote from cleveland45:

You knew this was coming. Another potential power grab.

What's next? Forced vaccinations?
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Shit I am still looking for a place that I can get the H1N1 vaccine

Tigerjaw · Oct 26, 2009

Quote from ProfLogic:

yes, hense my decision.
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Sounds like you have some good docs in your area. - - -

Tigerjaw · Oct 26, 2009

Fight-the-Future: Hmmmm - - - well you completely misread my comment. If you'll go back to it you'll see that I was going after Shagi for trying to pull the race card b.s. on you, - - actually defending you.

As a matter of fact, I also agree with much of what you posted below. (Except that I do Not like Obama - - and race has nothing to do with it.) Regards, - -

Quote from FightTheFuture:

I take great effort using restraint against insulting voluntary cretins that insult me, but I can't help myself this time, Tigerjaw and Shagi.

Where in my post was any racist statement? Are you two really that daft?

Personally, I rather like 0bama, even as I loath his politics. I find it rather hard to blame 0bama for much of anything as the irrepressible dimwits that voted for him are to blame. 0bama merely filled a void to fulfill some people's fantasies.

Contrary to some people's bizarre beliefs, race does not protect one from criticism or spoofing his actions nor give carte blanche to that individual.

And what in hell makes you think my post had anything to do with 0bama? It wasn't 0bama's fault that he won the Nobel Peace Prize. I was referring to the Nobel Committee that nominated him a few days after he was in office. I thought it was clear that the committee was being questioned by their choice.

I don't think I need to say anything else unless you still don't understand where I'm coming from.

If you don't understand, I will have to spell it out slower for you.
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Whether you are in love with the government or not:

Don't be looking only to the government to protect you from the flu. Take some personal responsibility. Don't be thinking that a vaccine will offer all the protection from the flu. As an easily transmissible virus like H1N1 passes from person to person, it mutates slightly. It changes to the point that a vaccine that was created months ago can be nearly useless.

Watch for any bird flu outbreaks. Watch out for patient Zero. If patient Zero is infected with an extremely high mortality rate virus that is very hard to catch like bird flu, and then Zero becomes infected with highly transmissible H1N1, their body will act as a mixing vat. The two viruses will combine to form a highly transmissible virus with very high mortality rate.

This is the second wave of H1N1. Will there be a much higher mortality 3rd wave or will it disappear as mysteriously as it appeared?

From some notes I took a few months ago:

1918 Spanish flu was an H1N1 virus.

Serious epidemics such as the Spanish flu often go through 2 or 3 waves of illness with each wave resulting in a higher death rate. The first wave of the Spanish flu resulted in no higher than normal mortality rate.

1918:

Out of 24,000 cases treated allopathically: 28.2% mortality rate. Aspirin was the most common prescription at the time. Aspirin suppresses the fever that fights the infection. Death rates declined rapidly after stopping aspirin. Hospitals resulted in the greatest risk of complications and death, one third developed pneumonia, staying home was less risk for the sick. People do not die from influenza. It's the complications that develop, mostly bacteria resulting in pneumonia. Fatal pneumonia came on so quickly that the majority did not feel that ill. Patients would feel fine all day and then suddenly become delirious and collapse on the sidewalk or at work.

Out of 26,000 cases treated homeopathically: 1.05% mortality rate.

Go get your vaccine that may not offer much benefit.

In the meantime, Do Not eat any sugar, ever, I don't. Just two teaspoons of sugar shuts down immune cell activity entirely for 6 hours. That is a laboratory proven fact. That is what I have read years ago and what my homeopathic doctor says. My homeopathic doctor recommends getting the allopathic vaccine as opposed to a lot of other natural health care providers, but does not believe it is near enough. She said months ago, during the first wave, the homeopathic community was afraid the H1N1 virus could mutate into something worse as it was acting in an unusual manner as did the Spanish flu. See a homeopathic doctor. There's a lot that an individual can do to treat the flu. My homeopathic doctor has provided her patients with an extensive influenza protocol that I would rather not say the details.
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FightTheFuture · Oct 26, 2009

Quote from Tigerjaw:

Fight-the-Future: Hmmmm - - - well you completely misread my comment. If you'll go back to it you'll see that I was going after Shagi for trying to pull the race card b.s. on you, - - actually defending you.

As a matter of fact, I also agree with much of what you posted below. (Except that I do Not like Obama - - and race has nothing to do with it.) Regards, - -
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Oops. I see and expect it everywhere you know what I mean?

Let's go beat up Shagi tomorrow after school by the flag pole.

The 0bamabots are following their leader's fine example of trying to shut out the critical Fox news a couple days ago. Any criticism of 0bama is met with the censorship tactic of calling them a racist.

ProfLogic · Oct 27, 2009

Quote from Tigerjaw:

Sounds like you have some good docs in your area. - - -
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A few good ones and a few that I think are are hiding out as well . . .

Somestimes I think the Witness Protection Program has an office in town. That we make a joke that it is always "Halloween at Walmart"