Obama Declares Swine Flu a National Emergency

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jprad, Oct 24, 2009.

  1. More people will die of swine flu than died on 9/11...

    What is that terror warning level today?

    Orange, red, green?

    I gotta guess you were first in line to buy your duct tape and plastic when Bush's lackeys told to you to...



     
    #21     Oct 24, 2009
  2. Well, do your own research. Here's a link to a recent CBS story pointing out the number of 'confirmed cases' have been highly exaggerated:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/21/cbsnews_investigates/main5404829.shtml

    But if you True Belivers in govt (or just when 'your guy' is barking out the orders) want to go ahead and put a rushed drug that hasnt been adequately tested and contains several toxic substances in your body & those of your family without investigating further for yourselves, then have at it. - - -

    P.S. - - you might want to look up what disaster happened the last time there was a swine flu scare. (Yeah, its happened before - - several decades ago.) For you dumb bastards who care, it was a Republican admin that time around - - so now you know how you would have reacted based on whether they had an R or D behind their name. Amazing.

    http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html
     
    #22     Oct 25, 2009
  3. This is phase II. Haven't you figured that out yet? These clowns are stepping it up fom Bush.
     
    #23     Oct 25, 2009
  4. Oh don't you love it when they play the old race card ? Does this scam artist really believe people say "I don't want to take the shot because O is part black. " ? They seem to be the ones where race is the first thing that comes in their minds. Of course, its used to just shut up reasoned opposition, a bullying tactic. - - -
     
    #24     Oct 25, 2009
  5. Your first problem is you believe the news.
    Next let me tell you, I'm not a fan of the government and didn't vote for the socialist.
    Now let me tell you from first hand information that here locally, west central Ohio, the number of cases have been highly underestimated.
    That being said, H1N1 doesn't seem to to be much harsher than typical flu except for the side effects. It effects those with a weaker immune system, the frail elderly and very young a lot harder.
     
    #25     Oct 25, 2009
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    National emergency status lifts red tape and allows monies to be spent, it activates a different set of policies and procedures. If the president did nothing, he'd be blamed for the 1k deaths. If he does something, he's blamed for trying to "take over".
     
    #26     Oct 25, 2009
  7. Hmmm - - - o.k. lets have a reasonable discussion. You say that the problem is believing the news; so what would you believe ? The government ? Did you read about the 1976 swine flu non-event, or about any number of dire health warnings given through the years ?

    You say the number of cases are under reported in your locality - - are you a physician? Do you have access to actual lab reports confirming H1N1 (especially when they no longer test now to confirm what it was) ? Or is this something you just assert ?
    I agree - - from what I have researched as a lay person - - that the flu cases that I have heard about personally don't seem to be any worse than any other flu. As reported in local papers and by people I know who have gotten the flu or have kids that have done so.
    Everyone has to weigh the evidence and make their own decisions. Its not a lib or conservative issue IMO. Back in '76 a Rep was in office. Regards & Good luck, - - - -
     
    #27     Oct 26, 2009
  8. I don't believe the media . . . period.
    I lived through the 1976 swine flu non event . . . I was 20.
    Next . . .
    No I'm not a physician but I know personally most of the local doctors and nurses. If you would have read my earlier post, this point was clarified.
    And they do still confirm the cases either at the request of the patient or some of the more creative local labs are comparing know local case samples. They do this since the CDC is telling them that it isn't necessary to send them in.
    Current CDC confirmed cases in my local area are now standing at 12 but I personally know 65 doctor confirmed cases from my son's school, church and the YMCA groups I belong.
     
    #28     Oct 26, 2009
  9. Why do you say the number of confirmed cases are highly underestimated ? That does not seem to make sense. Do the doctors not report them as H1N1 ? Why would that be ? Are you saying that the doctors you spoke to say the swine flu epidemic is much worse than is reported in your area ? (Not trying to be a smart-alec, just trying to get a handle on what's going on throughout the country. In my nephews high school they had a number of reported cases, but now its not confirmed that they were actually H1N1.) The kids experienced a bad flu for a few days and recovered fine. Regards, - - -
     
    #29     Oct 26, 2009
  10. The cost of confirming each case is $200 and the local doctors do not want to pass that cost on to their patients. They see what the symptoms are for the confirmed cased and send the cultures to the local labs for confirmation but they can not count those as confirmed to the CDC. In order for them to be confirmed they have to spend $200 each . . . sound fishy?

    I know there are more confirmed cases locally than are being reported to the CDC because of the costs associated with confirmation.

    I think that between $25 for a vaccination that costs about $2 to produce and $200 lab fees that cost $8 in supplies and 5 minutes of time that someone is making a crapper load of money off H1N1.

    Politics as usual.
     
    #30     Oct 26, 2009