Obama and the Minister

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by rubibond007, Mar 14, 2008.

  1. By RONALD KESSLER
    March 14, 2008; Page A19


    In a sermon delivered at Howard University, Barack Obama's longtime minister, friend and adviser blamed America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs and creating a racist society that would never elect a black candidate president.

    The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Mr. Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave the sermon at the school's Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel in Washington on Jan. 15, 2006.

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    "We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he began. "Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

    Mr. Wright thundered on: "America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."

    His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, "We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . ."

    Concluding, Mr. Wright said: "We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . ."

    Considering this view of America, it's not surprising that in December Mr. Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan for lifetime achievement. In the church magazine, Trumpet, Mr. Wright spoke glowingly of the Nation of Islam leader. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening," Mr. Wright said of Mr. Farrakhan. "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."

    After Newsmax broke the story of the award to Farrakhan on Jan. 14, Mr. Obama issued a statement. However, Mr. Obama ignored the main point: that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Mr. Farrakhan, and that Mr. Wright's church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

    Instead, Mr. Obama said, "I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree." Trumpet is owned and produced by Mr. Wright's church out of the church's offices, and Mr. Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.

    Meeting with Jewish leaders in Cleveland on Feb. 24, Mr. Obama described Mr. Wright as being like "an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with." He rarely mentions the points of disagreement.

    Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright's anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his previous claim that his church gave the award to Mr. Farrakhan because of his work with ex-offenders, Mr. Obama appears to have made that up.

    Neither the presentation of the award nor the Trumpet article about the award mentions ex-offenders, and Mr. Wright's statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way. Mr. Obama nonetheless told the Jewish leaders that the award to Mr. Farrakhan "showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community." That is an understatement.

    As for Mr. Wright's repeated comments blaming America for the 9/11 attacks because of what Mr. Wright calls its racist and violent policies, Mr. Obama has said it sounds as if the minister was trying to be "provocative."

    Hearing Mr. Wright's venomous and paranoid denunciations of this country, the vast majority of Americans would walk out. Instead, Mr. Obama and his wife Michelle have presumably sat through numerous similar sermons by Mr. Wright.

    Indeed, Mr. Obama has described Mr. Wright as his "sounding board" during the two decades he has known him. Mr. Obama has said he found religion through the minister in the 1980s. He joined the church in 1991 and walked down the aisle in a formal commitment of faith.

    The title of Mr. Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from one of Wright's sermons. Mr. Wright is one of the first people Mr. Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Mr. Obama consulted Mr. Wright before deciding to run for president. He prayed privately with Mr. Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.

    Mr. Obama obviously would not choose to belong to Mr. Wright's church and seek his advice unless he agreed with at least some of his views. In light of Mr. Wright's perspective, Michelle Obama's comment that she feels proud of America for the first time in her adult life makes perfect sense.

    Much as most of us would appreciate the symbolism of a black man ascending to the presidency, what we have in Barack Obama is a politician whose closeness to Mr. Wright underscores his radical record.

    The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama's close association with Mr. Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama's fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.

    Mr. Kessler, a former Wall Street Journal and Washington Post reporter, is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com and the author of "The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack" (Crown Forum, 2007).
     
  2. hughb

    hughb

    The media is not ignoring this story, it was on the CBS evening news tonight. They played audio and video of his sermons. I was actually surprised that they covered as much of it as they did.
     
  3. Is not this country supposed to be a secular state? Whatever faith or no faith Obama follows not only should not matter but should be respected. They tried obama the muslim, Obama the african, etc. It did not work. Now an another attack. I have even read on this forum attacks on his name like if he chose his name. There are a lot of bigots in this forum, and society in general.
     
  4. Ask Mitt Romney if this country is supposed to be a secular state.

    This issue is not really religion. It is about personal judgment and who has Obama's ear.

    Any person who advises Obama, who can shape Obama's opinion, who can influence his decision making...should be evaluated by the voters.

    Ask any politician if they would break what they consider God's law according to their personal religious faith because it was politically expedient...would reveal if affirmative an unforgivable flaw in the minds of many in an electorate that is mostly Christian.

    In addition, Reverend Wright, like many religious leaders in America, take strong political positions and they tend to their "flock." They are very much politically motivated in the name of their faith.

    They attempt to influence their followers on a political level which is more than a religious leader who never attempts to shape or influence public policy.

    I am not commenting on Reverend Wrights political opinions. They are out there for people to evaluate. I am however stating a fact that he does more than just "minister." He is extremely vocal with his political positions...and Obama does listen to what he says.



     
  5. Gord

    Gord

    Bob Jones University
     
  6. Not at all. The concept of a secular state means that the government must remove religious considerations from their actions and decisions, it absolutely does not mean that the citizens/voters must remove religious considerations from theirs.
     
  7. TGregg

    TGregg

    I don't see what the big deal is. Rev. Wright is espousing the mainstream left's views. It's not news in any sense of the word. Any reader of this forum understands that.

    Just in case some losers try to say this guy is not mainstream (the common tactic for those who are not proud of their viewpoints), Rev. Wright is close to Barak Hussein Obama:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor
    This isn't surprising at all, not one little bit. Well, I guess you could say it's surprising to see all the evidence for it, but this is exactly what the mainstream democrats have believed for a long time.
     
  8. SteveD

    SteveD

    Both branches of Congress open with a prayer....Supreme Court opens with a prayer.....President and all others sworn into office with a Bible.....


    That video of the black racist preacher is the nail in Obama's asperations for President.....

    Stick a fork in him....he's done.....he only disavowed it AFTER it became public.....

    McCain is next Pres.....Hillary can only muster maybe 35% of vote, if she lucky....


    SteveD
     
  9. TGregg

    TGregg

    Right out of the DNC talking points:

    This is the democractic party.
     
  10. Gord

    Gord

    Agreed. Much, much worse is said every day on Daily Kos and Democrat Underground.
     
    #10     Mar 14, 2008