Obama Admits he is a Muslim

Discussion in 'Politics' started by GabbyJay, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. My guess is Obama was sure in his mind the interview would question him being a muslim or not. And he is smart enough to know this brings fear to American people. So his thoughts came out in his words, but he is not muslim. He was nervous. But I still have many doubts about Obama and what he stands for, but I do not think he is muslim. Propoganda.
     
    #11     Sep 8, 2008
  2. You may not understand how little sense that statement made. Firstly, and most obviously, Obama clearly isn't a Muslim. Secondly, why would it matter. Thirdly, Muslim extremists are not the same as all Muslims. Fourthly, if anything electing a Muslim would reduce attacks.

    Well factually, he's got a wider variety of experience, both public and private. Additionally he graduated high in his class, while McCain graduated fifth from the bottom, so there can't really be a serious argument as to who is more qualified.
     
    #12     Sep 8, 2008

  3. lol
     
    #13     Sep 8, 2008
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    1)Obvious? He wasn't raised a Muslim?
    He didn't attend a Muslim school? He doesn't have a Muslim name?
    Did he not say(to the effect) in one of his books that his MUSLIM faith was more important than his country?
    You choose to believe his "conversion", that's your prerogative. I don't and won't buy it.

    2)Uhh because we're at war with Muslims? What do you think the public response to the suggestion of electing a German during WWII would have been? Outrage maybe? IMO rightly so.
    I and literally everyone I know see it the same way now.

    3)Well no and here I would like to agree with you. BUT I can't help but notice that almost no Muslims condemn the extremists.

    4)And you know this how?
    BTW you interested in a bridge I'm selling?

    5)One term in the senate (mostly spent campaigning) community "organizer" (whatever the fuck that is) and graduating top of his class may impress you. It don't do shit for me.
    In fact I personally know a PHD that doesn't have the common sense of a goose. And I know a self made multimillionaire who never even attended college. Top of the class sounds great, but doesn't necesarily guarantee anything. Except maybe they're good at studying academic crap. Much of which has little or nothing to do with the real world.
     
    #14     Sep 8, 2008
  5. #15     Sep 8, 2008
  6. No. Check snopes.

    Here's the snopes article, not that you'll read it:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

    No.

    This is just a crazy conversation. He didn't convert, because he was raised Christian.

    No, we're not. There are 1.4 billion Muslims.

    What the hell are you talking about. Eisenhower was a German-American, and he was elected after WWII.

    And you would be entirely wrong. Here's a list:

    http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

    Not if it's one of dem Muslim bridges. The reality is that if we were to elect a perceived "Muslim" then the motivation to blow things up is reduced. You don't understand why this is true?

    Okay, then elect the guy who has spent his entire life in government. He's sure to know about the real world.
     
    #16     Sep 8, 2008
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    What about his Muslim name and the Muslim school he attended?
    Is Obama not the one who said he converted? How is it he got caught on tape saying he was Muslim? Slip or no slip if he was never Muslim why would he say that?
    Have you not seen the exerts from his book?


    If we're not at war with Muslims who do you think we're at war with?
    Or maybe you think we're not at war.

    Eisenhower was elected, AFTER the war not during. In that case maybe we should wait to elect Obama AFTER the war.

    Entirely wrong about Muslims not condemning the radicals? So your list is supposed to convince me? I'm not sure what you're smoking but could I have a hit?


    "The reality is that if we were to elect a perceived "Muslim" then the motivation to blow things up is reduced. You don't understand why this is true?"

    NO I don't
     
    #17     Sep 8, 2008
  8. He also attended Catholic school. I guess that makes him a Muslim-Catholic. And his name is Arabic, not Muslim.

    The really sad part is that many voters, like yourself, will vote on the basis of religion and name. And even then the voters won't be able to get either right.

    No, I'd love to read your excerpts. Show us, then I'll take ten seconds to Google them and correct them.

    Al Qaeda. And ignorance. And apparently we're losing on both fronts.

    No no, we're clearly at war, which is why we don't have a draft or a well defined enemy.

    Your argument was that we shouldn't elect him at all, you know, because he's a Muslim.

    My counterpoint to that bit of silliness is that we shouldn't elect McCain because he's a known Satanist.

    Clearly you've had too much already. You have said that no Muslim group condemned Al Qaeda and the terrorists, and I supplied a six or more page list of Muslim groups that had condemned these terrorists.


    Because then "we're one of them." People don't attack those who are like themselves.
     
    #18     Sep 8, 2008
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I posted the exerts here awhile back. No one disputed them at the time.
    I didn't keep a copy, sorry.

    Al Qaeda isn't a Muslim group?
    Albeit a fanatical one.
    I said "3)Well no and here I would like to agree with you. BUT I can't help but notice that ALMOST no Muslims condemn the extremists." , not that there were none.
    Anyway six pages doesn't seem like much out of, according to you, 1.4 billion.

    I don't think we should elect him at all, but only partly because he's a Muslim(or was or attended Muslim school), it's also partly because he's extremely liberal.
     
    #19     Sep 8, 2008
  10. I figured not.



    I'm not sure if this can even be categorized as "logic" that because one group out of 1.4 billion is nasty, therefore we're at war with 1.4 billion.

    In three short posts your logic has broken down to the point of being almost unidentifiable as an argument.

    That entirely depends on how big each group is. For example, if only one group, the Catholic church, condemned something that could be a large portion of Christians.

    In what way? Not in spending for sure -- he's proposing less spending than McCain.
     
    #20     Sep 9, 2008