NYT: FBI raids Trump lawyer's office

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RedDuke, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Again, if Rosenstein is a sewer rat, why the fuck isn't he being fired? What's with the constant whining and crying and bitching like a teenage girl. Take responsibility and take some action, enough with your playing the pathetic victim card. Who the fuck is running this shit show? Is Trump a cuck to be played around by the very people he appointed? I know what you said, you just want to play the victim while I ask the direct questions. At least someone would pay me 10 cents for the post, yours isn't even worth that.
     
    #81     Apr 10, 2018
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  2. But, but, but...doesn't Trump "pick the best people?"
     
    #82     Apr 10, 2018
  3. No. He has access to anything internal and internal corruption may/usually involves activities that reach beyond internal agency activities. He has zero capacity to convene a grand jury or issue subpoenas. He can only make referrals to DOJ prosecutors/fbi and has to work through them when criminal investigations are required. If for example, he wants to investigate violations of departmental policy, ethics, etc now in regard to - for example- ohr, page, stzok etc and wants to interview McCabe to corroborate, he now has ZERO authority to do that since McCabe has left the department. The FBI can, but he can't. If by "access" you mean he can always refer or ask for cooperation, well then, that is just that, a recommendation. As congress has found out, referrals and recommendations may or may not result in any real investigative work being done.

    Also, I dont know how you conclude that I am "alleging internal investigation." I am alleging internal corruption that also spreads to many others in the State Department, Intel Agencies, DNC, Hillary Campaign, Russian and British agents, Podesta Group, Fusion, Obama, and so on. Definitely beyond the role and scope of the IG. Again, I see you coming. You want to be able to argue that no criminal activities were concluded in the IG's report but dont bother to go there with me. The IG has no authority to do criminal investigations. Getting a little repetitive here, but I am working with your binary mind. No need to thank me.
     
    #83     Apr 10, 2018
  4. exGOPer

    exGOPer

  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    Once again you rare looking for more than the situation calls for. Horowitz actually has more authority in many situations from inside than an investigation would conducted from outside, like a special counsel. Horowitz does not have to adobe by high legal standards, he has Administrative authorities, which give him access to everything internal without the need for judges and lawyers. You name it emails, phones, lap tops, call records, videos; he can just grab that stuff with impunity.

    He also has an administrative standard in terms of recourse. There is no judge and jury, what he finds is pretty much the end of it.

    The point is Horowitz has more authority than you think and less hurdles and restrictions.

    Now you’re claiming there’s some global conspiracy that involves a powerful deep state of actors pulling strings on every investigator in the fbi that was ever associated with a Trump or Clinton investigation. That’s crazy.

    I’m sure there are zealots but what you claim is only because you’re confused. You see a name and determine if they are a rogue agent based on their findings. I’m sure you’ll be readying to haul Horowitz into jail if he doesn’t find what you’re after.
     
    #85     Apr 10, 2018

  6. Stop with the repetitive babbling.

    Horowitz has precisely the authority I outlined. No more and no less. That is why he is the IG and why Sessions had to appoint Huber- an actual DOJ prosecutor- to deal with or develop a response to probable or actual criminal matters.

    As I have said twice, I see your gig. You are positioning yourself in advance to be able to say that no criminal matters or finding came out of the IG report as though that is conclusive or definitive. It is not. He does not have that authority. Sorry to interrupt your little plan but it is not going to work, not that you won't have a shot at it anyway. The IG is not a substitute for a real investigation- period. He has a lot of work ahead that he needs to do in regard to moving strzrok, ohr, page, and others out and that is fine but not a substitute for criminal investigation.

    And yes, wrongdoing in regard to the dossier etc extends to other agencies and parties in government and out of government such as fusion, gps etc. - beyond the personnel/administration powers of the IG. That sounds conspiratorial to you, in the same way that wrongdoing by McCabe and FBI agents and corrupted FISA court proceedings and dem contributions to the chief investigator sounded conspiratorial to you- and probably still do. But your beliefs are not important or controlling.

    You remember McCabe, right?
     
    #86     Apr 10, 2018
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    For Christ's sake, can we just get rid of Trump, put Pence in charge, fire Mueller and focus on shit like Syria where actions there might be stuff we'd all regret?

    Talk about bread and circuses while the empire collapses!
     
    #87     Apr 10, 2018
  8. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    Like I don't have better things to do than sit here all day answering your stupid talking points? Especially since you're so far gone you can't even grasp the difference between Laura Bush running a stop sign in high school and Ted Kennedy driving drunk and leaving a woman to die? GTFO!!!!
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/chappaquiddick.319801/

    Here's the bottom line and I'll make it as simple as I can. Trying to nullify a presidential election with police state tactics will backfire. Period. Normal people and some in your party understand, but I wouldn't expect you to.

    Have a nice day. :)
     
    #88     Apr 10, 2018
  9. Pence. Good one. :D
     
    #89     Apr 10, 2018
  10. Take heart. Big Daddy loves you:

     
    #90     Apr 10, 2018