NYSE Specialist - Stay or Go - vote here

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Hamlet, Mar 28, 2006.

Should the specialist Stay or Go?

  1. STAY - I earn $0-$100k (annually)

    46 vote(s)
    25.7%
  2. GO - I earn $0-$100k

    39 vote(s)
    21.8%
  3. STAY - I earn $100k-$300k

    21 vote(s)
    11.7%
  4. Go - I earn $100k-$300k

    12 vote(s)
    6.7%
  5. STAY - I earn > $300k

    16 vote(s)
    8.9%
  6. GO - I earn > $300k

    12 vote(s)
    6.7%
  7. STAY - I lose money trading and need someone to blame

    15 vote(s)
    8.4%
  8. Go - I lose money trading but will be profitable when he goes

    18 vote(s)
    10.1%
  1. 1000

    1000

    As the saying goes...

    When you think about it, it has already happened.

    As the saying goes...

    One mans crap is another mans...

    Oh crap.

    And what do you want for the spec... to get their brains rewired by the alians.

    Vote for Hugo Chavez.
     
    #71     Mar 31, 2006
  2. Cheese

    Cheese

    Specialists. Oh dear they make a profit. Corrupt.
    US employees across the nation. Get a salary. Oh dear being bribed for services rendered. Corrupt.

    Its called money, honey.

    You notice all the 'f**ked-ups' and 'have-nots' have to trumpet their envy and bitterness.

    Chill.
    :)
     
    #72     Mar 31, 2006
  3. 1000

    1000

    If I am still correct, the word corrupt is still in the Oxford English Dictionary.:D
     
    #73     Mar 31, 2006
  4. bitrend

    bitrend

    #74     Mar 31, 2006
  5. Hydroblunt knows his sh*t... this is the exact point.

    On low volume stocks (< 10K/day) it's often just you and the Specialist.
    I make at least 50 trades/day were it's just me and the Specialist.

    The guy will cheat me in a number of ways ... with absolutely no cover.
    In broad daylight... in full view.
    What? Am I gonna complain to his buddies?

    With the cover that high volume stocks provide...
    Making the Specialist nearly invisible...
    I can only imagine what these guys can get away with.

    The NYSE is rotten from top to bottom.
    Grasso almost made off with $150 million... but now the lawyers will split it up.

    There is only one basis on which to support the Specialist:

    I profit because of the corrupt system.
    (And that is nothing to be proud of).

    "Critical analysis" is the #1 requirement for a successful trader.
    Anyone who actually believes that the Specialists are honest and obey their own rules...
    And actually provide some kind of nebulous "public service"...
    Demonstrates a virtual absence of this faculty... and is doomed.

    rm+

    :cool: :cool: :cool:
     
    #75     Mar 31, 2006
  6. omfg...its not question of profitin' from da spec; just da fact that due to da structure of nyse it is possible to get better returns on stocks...nitrus summed it up well; if u hit or lift and get filled that's good enough, and who cares who's on da opposite side of me trades as long as they are profitable...i made plenty of nyse trades and NEVER had a problem...sure don't trade thin issues with half/one per percent spread but on high volumes stocks there are zero problems..u place u order and get filled, u win or u lose; that's it. u can't blame da whole system for u losses, that's absurd.
     
    #76     Mar 31, 2006
  7. Hi Bitstream. What kind of size are you usually moving? I'm only asking because it's almost impossible to move decent size without the specialist taking his "cut".
     
    #77     Mar 31, 2006
  8. wheater im scalin' in with 200-300 shares or all in one go with 10times that my fills are pretty fast and at da price on offer or best...with lmt orders obviously..never make use of mkt orders and if I don't get filled [it happens] I cancel, wait and try to re-enter.
     
    #78     Mar 31, 2006
  9. trador375

    trador375

    not to sidetrack us back to the topic that was brought up here but . . . does anybody notice that all the profitable categories vote in favor of the specialist staying, while the only caegory that votes against him is the one that loses money trading? just some food for thought . . .
     
    #79     Mar 31, 2006
  10. For profitable traders, it's 55-37 in favor of the specialist staying.

    For unprofitable traders, it's 11-9 in favor of the specialist leaving.

    With only 112 votes those #'s aren't very statistically relevant (especially when you consider the multiple I.D.'s that some of the people on ET have, and their multiple votes skewing the results).

    Also, I highly doubt that only 17% of the people that voted lose money. I think doubling that would be closer to the truth.
     
    #80     Mar 31, 2006