NY Times Endorses Obama

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lindq, Oct 23, 2008.

  1. You sound pretty confident. I'll bet you any amount of money that you're wrong.
    #11     Oct 24, 2008
  2. And after the NYT goes online they will find that everybody checks Drudge and Fox for their news nowadays.

    I live in LA Times land. I never could stand that paper, long before I formed political opinions. It's formulaic, stories of misery, misery, and oh, did I mention misery? And the information to misery ratio is very low as well.. unless it's African misery and a Sunday edition, then they can outdo the CIA factbook on details about places I never knew existed... and after I toss the paper I still don't know they exist.

    I'm not miserable at all, rarely have been, why would I read that shit? Anyhow, I recommend boycotting liberal rags, read them when they are free only, never pay for one...
    #12     Oct 24, 2008
  3. Hee hee, speaking of papers, the IBD has McCain closing on Obama with 10% of voters undecided... and with Obama not able to admit he's a Socialist /Marxist protege of some ass clown marxist we forgot from the 60's... well, bring on the riots then..
    #13     Oct 24, 2008
  4. "online advertising revenue grew by 10.2 percent in the quarter to 74.4 million dollars, The New York Times said, and now accounts for 12.4 percent of revenue"

    two years, give or take. Online is 12.4% of revenue. Once that gets to be 25-50%, maintaining overhead costs of printing daily papers becomes counter-productive.
    I see them doing a Sunday paper and holiday papers only.
    #14     Oct 24, 2008
  5. Holy shit! The New York Times, bastion of objective journalism, endorsed Obama?!? No freakin' way!

    Who could have seen that one coming!

    #15     Oct 24, 2008
  6. mxjones


    Granted - but there are many that are endorsing Obama that have never endorsed a Democrat before (I should say backed a Democrat for President). The Houston Chronicle, the Chicago Tribune.

    Obama has a 3 to 1 lead on endorsements:


    "The Sun-Times announced the selection in a banner notice on its Web site Friday afternoon, shortly after the Chicago Tribune released its own endorsement of Obama, the first time in that paper's 161-year history it has backed a Democrat for president."
    #16     Oct 24, 2008
  7. Yannis


    Camp Followers
    by Patrick J. Buchanan

    "Perhaps the only institution in America whose approval rating is beneath that of Congress is the media.

    Both have won their reputations the hard way. They earned them.

    Consider the fawning indulgence shown insider Joe Biden with the dripping contempt visited on outsider Sarah Palin.

    Twice last weekend, Biden grimly warned at closed-door meetings that a great crisis is coming early in the term of President Obama:

    "Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. ... Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said … we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

    A "generated crisis"? By whom? Moscow? Beijing? Teheran?

    This is an astonishing statement from a chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee who has access to the same intelligence as George Bush. Joe was warning of a crisis like the Berlin Wall of July 1961, where JFK called for a tripling of the draft and ordered a call-up of reserves, or the missile crisis where U.S. pilots like John McCain were minutes away from bombing nuclear missile sites in Cuba and killing the Russians manning them.

    Is Russia about to move on the Crimea? Is Israel about to launch air strikes on Iran's nuclear sites? What is Joe talking about?

    If one assumes Joe is a serious man, we have a right to know.

    Instead, what we got was Obama's airy dismissal of Joe's words as a "rhetorical flourish" and a media -- rather than demanding that Joe hold a press conference -- acting as Obama surrogates parroting the talking points that Joe was just saying that new presidents always face tests.

    Had John McCain made that hair-raising statement, he would have been accused of fear mongering about a new 9/11. The media would have run with the story rather than have smothered it.

    Contrasting McCain with his hero, Joe declared a few weeks back, "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and ... said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

    Nice historical reference. Except when the market crashed in 1929, Hoover was president, and there was no television.

    Can one imagine what the press would have done to Sarah Palin had she exhibited such ignorance of history. Or Dan Quayle?

    Joe gets a pass because everybody likes Joe.

    Fine. But Joe also has a record of 36 years in the Senate.

    Has anyone ever asked Joe about his own and his party's role in cutting off aid to South Vietnam, leading to the greatest strategic defeat in U.S. history and the Cambodian holocaust? Has anyone ever asked Joe about the role he and his party played in working to block Reagan's deployment of Pershing missiles in Europe, and SDI, which Gorbachev concedes broke the Soviets and won the Cold War?

    In the most crucial vote he ever cast -- to give Bush a blank check for war in Iraq -- Joe concedes he got it wrong.

    Is Joe's record of having been wrong on Vietnam, wrong in the Cold War, wrong on the Iraq War, less important than whether Sarah Palin tried to get fired a rogue-cop brother-in-law who Tasered her 10-year old nephew to "teach him a lesson"?

    "I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know," says Joe humbly. Given his record, it is understandable Joe has forgotten so much of it.

    Saturday, the New York Times did a takeout on Cindy McCain that delved back into her problem with prescription pills. Yet when Hillary's campaign manager, Mark Penn, brought up Obama's cocaine use on "Hardball," he was savaged by folks for whom the Times is the gold standard.

    The people apparently had a "right to know" of Bush's old DUI arrest a week before the 2000 election, but no right to know about how and when Obama was engaged in the criminal use of cocaine.

    The media cannot get enough of the "Saturday Night Live" impersonations of Palin as a bubblehead. News shows pick up the Tina Fey clips and run them and run them to the merriment of all.

    Can one imagine "Saturday Night Live" doing weekly send-ups of Michelle Obama and her "I've never been proud" of my country, this "just downright mean" America, using a black comedienne to mimic and mock her voice and accent?

    "Saturday Night Live" would be facing hate crime charges.

    How do we know? When the New Yorker ran a cartoon of Michelle in an Angela-Davis afro with an AK-47 slung over her shoulder, New Yorker editors had to go on national television to swear they were not mocking Michelle, but the conservatives who have so caricatured Michelle and The Messiah.

    Is there a media double standard? You betcha."
    #17     Oct 24, 2008
  8. We forgot to include Rolling Stone and most of Hollywood.
    #18     Oct 24, 2008
  9. And this proves what, exactly?

    Newspapers, IMO, shouldn't be endorsing ANYONE.
    #19     Oct 24, 2008
  10. Lucrum


    I agree, reporters should report the news. Not try to make news.
    #20     Oct 24, 2008