NSA's goal is elimination of individual privacy worldwide

Discussion in 'Politics' started by nitro, Dec 18, 2013.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    This must be your first encounter with Ricter.
     
    #41     Dec 19, 2013
  2. LOL! I thought myself to be a bit dense when it took me 3 posts of his to put him ON IGNORE!!
     
    #42     Dec 19, 2013
  3. http://news.yahoo.com/judge--nsa-spying-‘almost-orwellian---likely-unconstitutional-200101613.html

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...tonin-scalia-thinks-about-your-privacy-rights

    It will be interesting when this reaches the Supremes. Scalia (self-described "defender" of the Founder Father's intentions) thinks warrant-less wiretaps are ok. Appeals Court Judge Richard Leon said the domestic snooping today is "Orwellian" and Madison would be "aghast".

    If Scalia (and maybe others on the Supremes) think it is ok, then he would have to argue that Madison (and other Founding Fathers) would have wanted King George (if he had access to today's technology pre-1776) to use the those means to stop the American Revolution before it ever began. To paraphrase Ben Franklin, they would have been hanged separately, because they would have been electronically been identified to have been associated together. (Actually, it is a bit disconcerting to think of Franklin, Madison, Jefferson, Washington, etc, etc being water-boarded for their stand against The Crown).

    Not sure how Scalia and others would justify an argument like that, but it would be interesting to watch the debate.
     
    #43     Dec 19, 2013
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #44     Dec 20, 2013
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    The White House recently assigned a panel to review their own domestic spying tactics after public outrage over the NSA’s mass data collection. Their results pretty much tell us what we already know: the NSA’s spying in no way makes Americans safer.

    from NBC News:

    “It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”

    While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”

    “We found none,” said Stone....

    http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/70590940514/white-house-review-panel-nsa-data-collection-hasnt
     
    #45     Dec 20, 2013
  6. nitro

    nitro

  7. nitro

    nitro

  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #48     Dec 31, 2013
  9. teaparty

    teaparty

    #49     Dec 31, 2013
  10. nitro

    nitro

    No
     
    #50     Dec 31, 2013