NRA Hijinks

Discussion in 'Politics' started by dbphoenix, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. Lucrum

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    #481     Oct 25, 2014
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    #482     Oct 26, 2014
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    #483     Oct 26, 2014
  4. dbphoenix

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    A fight over “open carry” turns vulgar and scary

    AMANDA GAILEY

    If you want to understand the fight the gun safety movement faces in trying to win over gun extremists in red states, my experience this summer will be instructive.

    Moms Demand Action, a group formed after the Sandy Hook shooting to crack down on gun violence, began pressuring the Kroger supermarket chain to prohibit “open carry” in its stores after gun extremists used Kroger stores to demonstrate their “rights.” Gun laws are lax in many states, and it can be legal to openly carry a firearm with no training, and, in some cases, no background checks. The Kroger campaign is the most recent in a string of corporate responsibility efforts in which mothers, flanked by other gun violence prevention advocates, have asked companies to tighten gun policies, arguing that the businesses have an obligation to keep their customers safe.

    Of course, gun extremists did not respond kindly to the Kroger campaign. What follows is a recounting of their disturbing tactics, from the shocking intimidation and harassment of unsuspecting commenters on Kroger’s Facebook page to right-wing media propaganda that disingenuously portrayed Kroger as being allies of the gun extremists.

    Secret Facebook groups such as “People Who Were Blocked by Moms Demand Action Demand Action Now” — which has well over a thousand members — disseminated gun rights propaganda and helped orchestrate attacks on individuals commenting on Kroger’s page. Some gun nuts combed the profile pages of people commenting in support of gun reform, harvested personal photos of them and Photoshopped them to include obscene or humiliating comments, before reposting the photos on Kroger’s page, or on other social media sites. Because Kroger frequently bans users who post that kind of content, the gun extremists created disposable fake accounts — sometimes using the name and profile photo of an opponent— to quickly dump posts without being held accountable.

    In one case, they found a photo of a woman’s preschool-age child and wrote on it, “My mom sucks more cock than Richard Simmons” and circulated it online. In another case, they grabbed a photo of a mother and her child and wrote “Big retard, little retard” on it before reposting it. One woman posted to Kroger a photograph of a receipt showing money she spent elsewhere, and gun extremists swarmed her post, with hundreds of responses, including comments like “what you could do is shut your god damned whore mouth,” “calm your tits,” and “fuck her right in the pussy,” which Kroger’s Facebook admin allowed to stand over a day later.

    Some of the gun extremists’ targets regularly do battle with them online; others never expected such a response when they posted a message to Kroger and are alarmed and intimidated. One woman who was the target of a Photoshopped image told me that she considered shutting down her Facebook account over the reaction to her post on Kroger’s page. The gun extremists’ goal seems to be to mob individuals until they are scared into silence, and in some cases it is working.

    The dirty tactics don’t stop at the street level. Recently the right-wing blog site BuzzPo featured a post by Eric Reed, founder of Gun Rights Across America. Reed’s post claimed that CJ Grisham, head of Open Carry Texas, had met with Kroger executives for a “lengthy conversation” about their policy on guns at their stores. Reed links to a petition he said Grisham created after meeting with Kroger executives, “a way for Americans to support Kroger in their decision, to help them stand their ground.” If you sign the petition, Reed says, you can knock Moms Demand Action back “into their little liberal utopia where they can chase leprechauns and ride unicorns all day long” and “Kroger will appreciate your support as well.” Members of Moms Demand Action, including founder Shannon Watts, caught wind of Reed’s story and took to Twitter about it, claiming Kroger should meet with them, too.

    Except it’s not clear that the meeting the gun nuts claim happened actually ever did. Kroger adamantly denied it, as did the one member of Open Carry Texas who spoke to Kroger executives. Reed’s source for this post was a Facebook exchange between Grisham and himself in a closed gun group, in which Grisham named a Kroger executive who he says suggested this counter-petition to Open Carry Texas. However, the Kroger executive named by Grisham told me he didn’t know who Grisham was, and that while he had received a phone call from the head of Houston’s branch of Open Carry Texas, he never encouraged OCT in any way or suggested any course of action to them.

    The head of the Houston chapter of Open Carry Texas, David Amad, also vigorously denied that Kroger had suggested the petition and maintained that the Kroger executive was completely neutral in their brief phone call. In fact, he said, that was the whole point as far as he was concerned: He doesn’t believe that anyone should be asking businesses to take sides in the gun debate.

    Never mind the fact that several days before our conversation, Open Carry Texas posted photos of themselves marching into Staples with semiautomatic rifles and a Texas flag. When “neutral” means almost anyone can openly carry loaded guns into your place of business, remaining “neutral” is in effect siding with the gun extremists. That’s how frightening this debate has become.
     
    #484     Oct 27, 2014
  5. Tsing Tao

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    Vulgarity uncalled for, but it should be noted that the Liberal hate machine is just as bad - if not worse - whenever anything is presented against their views.

    In the interest of balance, why not put up some comments that came from the Liberal crowd after Hobby Lobby, or Chick-fil-A, or Duck Dynasty, or etc...

    Why not indeed - it doesn't fit your narrative.
     
    #485     Oct 27, 2014
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    A second girl has died of wounds she suffered in a US school shooting in Washington state which ended when a boy aged 14 fatally shot himself in the neck.

    Gia Soriano, also 14, was targeted during a gun rampage by fellow pupil Jaylen Fryberg near Seattle on Friday.

    Her family said in a statement they were "devastated by this senseless tragedy".

    Another girl was killed in the attack, at Marysville Pilchuck High School.

    She has not yet been formally identified.

    Three other students targeted by Fryberg - including two of his cousins - remain in hospital. Two are in a critical condition.

    All were shot in the head after the boy pulled out a weapon and started firing in the school cafeteria.

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    Jaylen Fryberg during a homecoming celebration at Marysville Pilchuck High School this month


    Reports have emerged about the heroics of one teacher, Megan Silberberger, who ran to the scene of the shooting and "did everything possible to protect students", according to a statement from her union.

    It was unclear whether Fryberg had killed himself deliberately or whether the gun had been fired by accident as he struggled with the teacher.

    Fryberg, who was from a prominent Tulalip Indian Reservation family, was described as a popular, outgoing student, though messages he posted online before the attack suggested he had been "broken" by an unspecified event.

    One pupil at the school told the Reuters news agency that the attack was related to a "fight over a girl".
     
    #486     Oct 27, 2014
  7. Tsing Tao

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    “This deplorable incident would not have been stopped by I-594, (which is the new gun legislation on the books in Seattle) as this shooter was underage to buy a firearm, and it is currently illegal to sell one to a minor,” Gottlieb, who is a leader in efforts to pass I-591. “To try to use this tragedy to push for passage of I-594 just shows what length the gun-prohibition lobby will go to further their anti-rights agenda.

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    #487     Oct 27, 2014
  8. Lucrum

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    Obviously that 14 yo kid should have undergone a "universal" background check.



    Kid walks to local sheriff's office the day before (he's too young to drive)
    Kid: "I'd like to undergo a universal background check please"
    Sheriff: Sorry kid, I'll need to see a photo ID first.
     
    #488     Oct 27, 2014
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    #489     Oct 29, 2014
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    BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) – An anti-violence activist caught carrying a firearm into an elementary school in February has been given a conditional discharge.

    A judge says if Dwayne Ferguson completes 100 hours of community service and stays out of trouble, he will not face more serious charges possessing a firearm on schools grounds.

    Last February, Ferguson sparked a scare at Harvey Austin Elementary School when a man noticed his weapon and called police. Students were held on lockdown for around three hours while police swept the school. It was during a second search that Ferguson was found with a weapon.
     
    #490     Oct 29, 2014