NRA calls for armed police officer in every school

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OnClose, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    How is guarding our nations children an "extreme" position?
    We use armed guards at airports, the secret service carries weapons, hell many a warehouse and corporate building have armed guards.
     
    #21     Dec 21, 2012
  2. I sincerely thought about what the NRA said, but where do you draw the line? Are you going to have cops at every mall, Walmart, place of worship, etc? In Newtown we have 7 public schools and 33 police officers. You would need at least 2 per school, because activities happen from 6am-10pm everyday. So we would have to increase our police force by 50%. If you want volunteers to do the job, seriously think about that. You want an armed volunteer near your kids? That would entice child predators to get closer to the children. I just don't see this as a practical solution.
     
    #22     Dec 21, 2012
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    OR we could arm the law abiding citizenry but that just makes too much sense and doesn't cost the government anything
    Not to worry about churches. In most states they're a "gun free zone"
    No you don't.
    it's easy to see why, you care about eliminating firearms from law abiding citizens, not school safety.
     
    #23     Dec 21, 2012
  4. OnClose

    OnClose

    Great idea, why have one maniac shooting in all directions when you can have one hundred?
     
    #24     Dec 21, 2012
  5. OnClose

    OnClose

  6. #26     Dec 21, 2012
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Huh?

    Armed law abiding citizens aren't the ones causing the so called "gun problem".

    Remember the NYC shooting not long ago, cops shot NINE innocent bystanders. In fact 11% of police shooting involve bystanders being shot - by the police. Only 2% of armed citizen shootings result in the same.



    Four states require no permit to carry a concealed firearm, are “shall-issue” states where non-felons receive permits on demand, eight states may or may not issue permits, and one state allows no form of concealed carry. Statistics for each CCW state show that crime rate fell (or did not rise) after the right-to-carry law became active.

    Crime rates involving gun owners with carry permits have consistently been about 0.02% of all carry permit holders since Florida’s right-to-carry law started in 1988.

    Florida's homicide rate fell from 36% above the national average to 4% below after CCW enactment and remains below the national average (as of the 2005 reporting period).




    Are you people allergic to facts?
     
    #27     Dec 21, 2012
  8. OnClose

    OnClose

    Here's some facts for ya.

    5. Arizona
    > Violent crimes (excl. murder) per 100,000: 401.7 (18th most)
    > Murders per 100,000: 6.4 (6th most)
    > Incarceration rate per 100,000: 572 (6th most)
    > Police per 100,000: 351.0 (16th most)
    > Basic access: 80.8 (16th lowest)
    > Total cost of violence: $10.77 billion

    Arizona, is the fifth-most violent state in the country. It has not always been this way. According to the Peace Index, the state dropped nine places from last year’s rank. The cause of this was a substantial increase in the murder rate, which, at 6.4 murders per 100,000 residents, was the sixth-worst in 2010. The state’s incarceration rate is also sixth worst. When it comes to correlating factors, Arizona actually has the ninth-highest life expectancy in the country, at 79.9 years. However, the state also has the 17th-highest teen death rate, at 69 per 100,000.

    4. Florida
    > Violent crimes (excl. murder) per 100,000: 537.2 (9th most)
    > Murders per 100,000: 5.2 (17th most)
    > Incarceration rate per 100,000: 556 (7th most)
    > Police per 100,000: 404.7 (7th most)
    > Basic access: 79.5 (7th lowest)
    > Total cost of violence: $34.28 billion

    Despite making significant improvements in becoming more peaceful since 1991, Florida is still the fourth-least peaceful state. The state has among the highest incarcerations, violent crimes, and rates of police employees. Florida has a number of other problems that correlate with high crime. More than 21% of residents do not have health insurance, which is the country’s third-highest rate. The state also has the fifth-highest rate of income inequality. It has one of the worst rates of labor force participation, as well as one of the largest rates of children living in single-parent households. Among metropolitan areas, Miami-Miami Beach-Kendal is among the worst for peace.

    http://247wallst.com/2012/04/26/americas-most-and-least-peaceful-states/
     
    #28     Dec 21, 2012
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    Just overheard a Canuck colleague saying, "those Americans just don't get it" in response to the NRA statement. No, you Canucks don't get it, the firearm genie is out of the bottle already.
     
    #29     Dec 21, 2012
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #30     Dec 21, 2012