Discussion in 'Politics' started by nowar_nobush, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. Are you a mother, are you a father?
    Have you ever felt what is the loss of son?
    Do you know that the cost of the war on Iraq only till 1-1-2006 is 233.510.455.921 Dollars ?
    Do you know that 60% of the americans voted against the war on Iraq ?
    where is the so-called democracy?
    The answer is clear: the only beneficiaries are the merchants of the wars like buch , cheny and ramsfeld and .. and…..
    Because regarding them
    war= money, Peace= nothing
    we pay taxes and pay our sons lifes to Bush's account
    ?At the end i say to you:
    To all mothers and fathers of the soldiers let us stop this dirty war killing our sons and say NO to bush and his government
    join us in this group
  2. We are only at war because your gutless democrats didn't do anything about it when they had a chance.

    Bush has spent his 2 terms cleaning up Clinton's mess.

  3. I agree with this completely. Clinton didn't do anything while he was in office. If i recall correctly, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Al Gore were on a plane once and Bill said - "Ya know guys, I can throw out a $1000 bill and make 1 person very happy" and Gore quickly snapped back, "Well I can throw 10 $100 bills out the window and make 10 people really happy" to which Hillary replied "I can throw 100 $10 bills out the window and make 100 people happy." After hearing this the pilots in the cockpit talk amongst themselves and say "Those damn bigshots think they are everything, we can throw all 3 of them out of the plane and make 300 million people happy!"

    Good Game: Bush-1 Clinton-0
    That is all.

  4. Yep, you're right, George Dubaiya Bush is cleaning up Clinton's mess and doing a heck of a job:

    Osama Bin Laden - at large
    Mullah Omar - at large
    Taliban - has regrouped and is active in Afghanistan
    Al-Qaeda - alive and kicking, recruiting like crazy.
    Iran is building the bomb and there is nothing we can do about it.

    Military fatalities in Iraq - 2515 including 2318 US fatalities
    Wounded in action according to the DoD - 16653
    Cost of Iraq war can surpass $1 trillion
    Budget Deficit - $500-600 billion a year
    National Debt - $8.3 trillion - $27,702.33 per each citizen, growing more than $2 billion per day.
    Katrina fatalities - 1422
  5. Change of heartland
    On the third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, many Indianians are no longer strongly behind the war

    By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | March 19, 2006

    SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- The third anniversary of the Iraq invasion unleashed a surge of pessimism at a local farmers' market here, where stalwart Republicans, standing amid aisles of produce and miracle cures, said President Bush has messed up a war that looks more like Vietnam every day.

    ''It's chaos," said Roger Madaras, who voted twice for Bush. ''How many more people are going to be killed? We were going in to free the people of Iraq, but as far as I'm concerned, a lot of them are worse off today than they were under the dictatorship."

    Madaras, the owner of a plumbing company, said he believed Bush when the president declared major combat to be over in May 2003, and is ''disgusted" that Bush's rhetoric was hollow. And he is far from alone.

    Support for Bush and his handling of Iraq is sharply eroding across the American heartland, where the overcast skies and the muddy fields of late winter matched a sense of gloom about Bush and the war.

    This month, the Indianapolis Star released poll findings that Bush's approval rating among Indiana voters stood at 37 percent -- a drop of 18 points over the past year. The numbers echoed national polls, but were particularly shocking in a state that has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, and where Democratic presidential contenders often do not bother to campaign.

    ''A 37 percent approval rating in Indiana for a Republican president is unheard of," said Brian Howey, who runs a newsletter for Indiana state political insiders. ''Those are Bill Clinton or John Kerry numbers in Indiana. So there is something seriously awry going on right now."
  6. FredBloggs

    FredBloggs Guest

    what tree did you fall out of?

    so clinton did nothing then. big fucking deal. id rather bush did nothing as well to be honest. seems like a load of americans would also rather bush did sweet fa. i know the innocent iraqis would rather bush did nothing in his sorry life - as would the rest of the world.

    bush should stick to what hes good at: watching tv, choking on pretzels, falling off his bike, boozing and doing cocaine.

    bush lied, lota people died.

    anyway, thank god we may not have to deal with this inept fuckwit for much longer.

    side note -

    how is it america always needs to be at some intangible war with someone or other?

    after ww2, they were on the knife edge with the reds. now they are mostly gone, they do 9-11 and engineer another silly war - this time on terror/muslims. its a joke! it will never end. it is undefinable. its just what these wankers want to waste YOUR tax dollars on - rather than spending the money on AMERICA and good social causes.

    odd or wot!
  7. "Do you know that 60% of the americans voted against the war on Iraq ?"

    false/. the american people have never voted for or against the war in iraq.

    are you referring to POLLS?

    polls are not votes. polls are a measure of opinion, but they are not votes.

    this one statement alone, regardless of the verity of your overall point, tends to give you zero credibility since it's an example of shoddy thinking and accuracy.
  8. In public opinion polls (which is what was referenced), it is a fact (according to the poll data) that 60% of the polled voted against the war in Iraq in that poll.

    Synonyms for vote:
    Main Entry: election
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: choosing
    Synonyms: acclamation, advance poll, alternative, appointment, ballot, balloting, by-election, choice, decision, determination, franchise, judgment, option, poll, polls, preference, primary, referendum, selection, ticket, vote, vote-casting, voting

    Main Entry: straw vote
    Part of Speech: noun
    Definition: unofficial vote
    Synonyms: experimental sample, opinion poll, public opinion poll, random sample, straw poll, straw to show the wind, voting poll

    Obviously the author was referring to the way people vote in popular opinion polls, as there never has been an election process regarding the war in Iraq.

    We don't elect wars, we just elect neocons who start unnecessary ones. It has taken some time for the kool aid to wear off the general public following 911, but the evidence is clear that many people are waking up to find out they have been duped by a band of neocon chicken-hawks....

  9. fair enuf. good post.

    i still think it better to say "60% of the american people POLLED were against the war"

    that is much clearer.
  10. It was clear from the beginning.

    It was a point that didn't need clarification, until you muddied up the thread...

    #10     Mar 19, 2006