Nothing Works!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by none4425, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Not too long ago I was in a heated debate with someone that stated he scalps via the 1 hour chart. :D

    More strange, he can not figure out why it doesn't work like that and he too stated he's tried many systems...nothing works. :rolleyes:

    wrbtrader
     
    #21     Sep 11, 2019
  2. dozu888

    dozu888

    either you were joking, which would be cool.... or if you were serious then clearly you lack the basic logic needed for trading.

    something not equal 'A' does not mean something equals the opposite of 'A'.
     
    #22     Sep 11, 2019
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    You sounded just like the trading informercials I watched in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep, except you forgot the part about sending in $799 to lock in a special discount price. :D
     
    #23     Sep 11, 2019
  4. CharlesS

    CharlesS

    The Intentional Definition per Brooks (not his term) :

    Swing: 2R+ goal
    Scalp: 1R goal // if memory serves
     
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    #24     Sep 11, 2019
  5. none4425

    none4425

    Can you elaborate? Who is brooks? What is R?
     
    #25     Sep 11, 2019
  6. lindq

    lindq

    Well, actually, having discipline and managing risk is precisely what good trading is about.
     
    #26     Sep 11, 2019
  7. qlai

    qlai

    Supply/Demand (DOM), orderflows, correlations, manipulations, news, noise.
     
    #27     Sep 11, 2019
  8. CharlesS

    CharlesS

    Al Brooks, https://brookstradingcourse.com

    R:
    1) R Plan for Trade: Ratio of $ToBeWon At Future Time of Planned Exit /$Risked
    2) R Result After Trade Ends: Actual $WonORLost/$Risked

    so a "2R win" means the completed trade $Profits = 2 x $Risked
     
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    #28     Sep 11, 2019
  9. guru

    guru

    No kidding. Can you provide any logical reason why everyone who runs a few thousand backtests should be able to beat you and take your money? Or maybe that’s what everyone already did?

    Re:

    Where is the best place to go and look for an edge in scalping? The 4 hour+ time frames seem pretty easy to beat since you can just do a trend following system and it will have a 5-20% edge but the downside being you can only make 5-15 trades a month. Even on a 20% edge, it will hardly deliver consistent results.


    Interesting. So what’s the reason anyone should tell you how you can tap into their own profits and beat everyone else? Wouldn’t this be same as asking someone to just give you money?

    And once/if you find an edge, are you going to run back here and tell everyone how they can beat you so that your edge is no longer an edge?

    Or what’s your definition of an “edge”?
     
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    #29     Sep 11, 2019
  10. dozu888

    dozu888

    lol... first of all, this front page - 'nothing works'.. 'virtually impossible'... the discipline part is easy, the education system is built to teach every kid obey the rules get good grades get good job...

    problem is most people just keep flipping that non-weighted dice/coin in a very disciplined way and they keep wonder why they can't make a cent, except generating bunch of commission for the broker.

    my thread 'trading is easy'..... all about market logic, no component about discipline/risk management.. why? once someone understands how the market works, the bad moves naturally disappear because they are illogical.

    why is it so hard for many to understand? trading random noise with 'great discipline and risk management' is still trading random noise, die by a thousand cuts (slippage and comm).
     
    #30     Sep 11, 2019
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