Nothing Ted Cruz Said About the ACA Today Is True

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You are delusional

    When ACA passed, a certain premium threshold was scored by the CBO

    The CBO later LOWERED these, so when Ted Cruz said that premiums are rising, he is LYING. It's simple.
     
    #11     Oct 18, 2013
  2. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    I would trust Ted Cruz's wife who is VP at Goldman Sachs.
     
    #12     Oct 18, 2013
  3. Max E.

    Max E.

    The writer of this article is a brazen liar, i can point to dozens of news releases where companies said they were going to lay off tens of thousands of employees due to obamacare.

    He also makes the rificulous claim that businesses arent hiring people part time based on obamacare yet in the last year we have added almost zero full time jobs, and 1 million part time jobs.

    You really ough to check your facts moron.

    Only a complete fucking retard would actually try to argue that obamacare will not be harmful to employment.
     
    #13     Oct 18, 2013
  4. Max E.

    Max E.

    In other words the only people who will see a rate shock are those who actually use obamacare. What a dumb fucking statement.
     
    #14     Oct 18, 2013
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    #15     Oct 18, 2013
  6. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Right and Romney in a landslide.

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    #16     Oct 18, 2013
  7. Max E.

    Max E.

    #17     Oct 18, 2013
  8. Max E.

    Max E.

    Got anything else skippy?



    When the payroll report was released last month, the world finally noticed what we had been saying for nearly three years: that the US was slowly being converted to a part-time worker society. This slow conversion accelerated drastically in the last few months, and especially in June, when part time jobs exploded higher by 360K while full time jobs dropped by 240K. In July we are sad to report that America's conversation to a part-time worker society is not "tapering": according to the Household Survey, of the 266K jobs created (note this number differs from the establishment survey), only 35% of jobs, or 92K, were full time. The rest were... not.

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    #18     Oct 18, 2013
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    That's important, though. It forces an honest person, before they start shouting, to discover the actual distribution of good and bad premium changes.
     
    #19     Oct 18, 2013
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Right, it's not Cruz's fault for lying, its politifact's fault for fact-checking the BS claim.

    As for actual premium increases.

    "According to the Kaiser Family Foundation, the average family premium for employer-sponsored plans rose by an average of 5.8 percent per year from 2008 to 2013. Before that, premiums actually were rising faster. From 1999 to 2008, premiums rose by an average of 13.2 percent a year, Kaiser found."

    So how much have premiums increased more than their usual rate?

    Analysts at the Kaiser Family Foundation, an independent group that enjoys broad credibility, have declined to compare rates before and after Obamacare on the grounds that good data is lacking. They said we don’t know what people in the individual market pay today and we don’t know what they will choose in the Marketplaces.

    Let's wait for the actual data rather than getting into another skewed nonsense again.
     
    #20     Oct 18, 2013