Nothing Better for Conservatism Than Periodic Examples of Untrammeled Liberalism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    The difference I see in your example is the individual is restricted from something not forced into something by law.
     
    #31     Feb 27, 2014
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    In related news...

    Fact-Checkers Inexplicably Conclude Arizona's Anti-Gay Bill Isn't Anti-Gay
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona-anti-gay-fact-check

    A fact-checking organization run by Arizona media outlets concluded on Tuesday that the anti-gay legislation that has created a national firestorm in the state is not, in fact, discriminatory.

    The organization examined an Arizona lawmaker's statement about the bill, known as SB 1062.

    "This (bill) is not a discrimination bill," state Rep. Adam Kwasman (R) said. "It makes no mention of sexual orientation."

    The fact-checking group -- a collaboration between the Arizona Republic, KPNX and Arizona State University's journalism school -- rated that statement "true." It reached that conclusion because the bill doesn't explicitly mention sexual orientation and Arizona law doesn't protect gay people through its anti-discrimination statute.


    (More at above url)
     
    #32     Feb 27, 2014
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    "This campaign will not be dictated to by fact checkers."
     
    #33     Feb 27, 2014
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As someone whose roots are in Pennsylvania Dutch farming country in Lancaster and Union counties - let me address the Amish comments.

    All religious institutions, not only the Amish, are exempt from employee contributions to social security and other similar taxes. The employer must still pay the employer share of these taxes as per the 1982 Supreme Court decision (link below).

    Amish children attend private schools. Children who attend private schools are not required to be vaccinated; if the Amish children attended public schools then they would be required to be vaccinated.

    Conscience objectors of any background (not only Quaker & Amish) usually avoid military draft and service. The actual law states that they must serve - but in non-combat roles. Many Quakers & Amish (and other conscience objectors) were U.S. Army medics in WW2.

    Providing particular groups exemptions that do not infringe on the civil liberties of others and do not endanger the safety of the public --- is very different than passing laws that discriminates against a class of people on religious grounds.


    Supreme Court decision link
     
    #34     Feb 27, 2014
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Feb 24th, 2014, 01:51 PM
    But it's perfectly OK when YOU do the same eh Rectum?
     
    #35     Feb 27, 2014
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #36     Feb 28, 2014
  7. TGregg

    TGregg

    Most of `em couldn't give a shit what happens to the country this afternoon. :p
     
    #37     Feb 28, 2014