Nothing Better for Conservatism Than Periodic Examples of Untrammeled Liberalism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Max E., Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

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    #21     Jan 16, 2014
  2. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Two Ironies

    Irony 1. We are told NOT TO judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics." BUT on the other hand. "We are also encouraged TO judge ALL Gun Owners by the actions of a few lunatics." How is that supposed to work???

    Irony 2. The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing this year the greatest amount of free Meals and Food Stamps ever, to 47.5 million people (most recent figures available April 2013).

    Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Dept. of the Interior, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because "The animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
     
    #22     Jan 18, 2014
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    The Hooker and the Illegal Immigrant

    "Hey, how much you charge for da hour, sister?" he asks.

    "$100" she replies.

    In broken English, he says,

    "Do you do immigrant style?"

    "No," she says.

    "I pay you $200 to do immigrant style."

    "No," she says, not knowing what immigrant style is.

    "I pay you $300."

    "No," she says.

    "I pay you $400."

    "No," she says.

    So finally he says,

    "OK, I pay $1,000 to do immigrant style."

    She thinks, "Well, I've been in the game for over 10 years now.
    I've had every kind of request from weirdos from all over the world. How bad could immigrant style be?"

    So she agrees and has sex with him. Finally, they finish.

    Exhausted, the hooker turns to him and says, "Hey, I was expecting something perverted and disgusting.

    But that was ok. So, what exactly is immigrant style?"

    The illegal immigrant replies, "You send bill to Government."


    AND THAT, MY FRIENDLY TAXPAYER,

    IS EXACTLY WHAT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

    ARE DOING TO US!

    Screwing us and we pay!
     
    #23     Jan 18, 2014
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

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    #24     Jan 21, 2014
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    #25     Feb 27, 2014
  6. Wallet

    Wallet

    I had a lengthy debate yesterday with a good conservative friend over this subject who just doesn’t get it…. The idea is not to give a business owner the right to discriminate, but protection and the right to refuse service when it violates his/hers religious beliefs.

    A photographer or ad agency whose religious beliefs do not allow homosexuality should not be subject to civil or criminal prosecution when they refuse to photograph or promote something that’s religiously offensive.... a gay wedding, activity or gay promotional material.... They should be allowed to say “Sorry, I just can’t help you.”

    In the same light that photographer or ad agency whose religious beliefs do not allow the killing of cows should not be forced to photograph or promote the “new triple stacked Angus burger” at the local Tasty Hut.

    It’s not about allowing the discrimination of any race or segment of the population, but there are certain professions and businesses that are expressions of the owners, and they shouldn’t be forced, coerced and extorted into violating their religious beliefs by the ulterior motives of those diametrically opposed.

    A Catholic Priest or Protestant Minister can't be forced to marry a gay couple, which is the end game in this debate. Once the discrimination laws are upheld, this subject will be tried in the courts with the aim of stripping the non-profit status of Churches who refuse service. Not to mention the open war against Christian based companies by the far left.
     
    #26     Feb 27, 2014
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I can think of one instance in which state sanctioned legalized discrimination IS not only allowed but championed by liberals.
     
    #27     Feb 27, 2014
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The rules of the government have precedence over your religious beliefs in the United States when your religion tramples on the civil liberties of others (protected classes) or conflicts with the safety of our country's citizens.

    That's the way the law is designed. However at this point sexual orientation is not a protected class like gender, religion, race, etc. in the U.S. - I expect it will be shortly.
     
    #28     Feb 27, 2014
  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    Please give an example? Imho, it's the opposite, Quaker/Amish are exempt from certain state and federal social security taxes, military/draft and vaccination exemptions are given to conscience objectors. Certain religious exemptions exist inside the medical profession.

    There are no trampling on the civil liberties of anyone other than the business owner in the proposed debate. Why would anyone want to do business with someone that is opposed to them other than to force upon another their own views and beliefs. We are not talking about separate seating in public places, segregation issues and the like. This revolves around the right of an individual regarding their religious beliefs in the workplace.

    A gay couple that is refused service from a Christian photographer on religious beliefs can simply go to another photographer that has no objection to their life choices, they haven't been denied anything, the only person who suffered economically was the Christian photographer. That gay couple doesn't have a case to sue the Christian photographer, but this is exactly what's happening and why the law was proposed to stop this kind of business targeting by individuals.
     
    #29     Feb 27, 2014
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    An example - In most states Muslim women cannot wear coverings over their head for pictures used in photo id, and can not work in the public sector in jobs like teaching while wearing a cover over their head.
     
    #30     Feb 27, 2014