Noted Hacker Makes Explosive Claims About DNC WikiLeaks

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AAAintheBeltway, May 22, 2017.

  1. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    You said DNC didn't let FBI investigate the crime - if that was true then why did the DNC give UNFETTERED access to the server logs? You do realize that this is protocol right?

    "The New York Timesfollowed a similar protocol in 2013, when the paper detected a digital intrusion that was ultimately traced back to the Chinese military. While the Times worked with both the FBI and AT&T in tracing the hackers, the newspaper hired Mandiant to do the immediate network analysis work, and had the firm coordinate with law enforcement for subsequent attribution."

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/5/14178806/fbi-dnc-hack-server-examined-forensics-russia

    So by your logic, did NYT stop the FBI from investigating who hacked them?

    Just because you can't research properly or deduce, doesn't make everyone else stupid.
     
    #61     May 24, 2017
  2. jem

    jem

    you are a troll lying moron.. who got this dead ass wrong... again.

    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

    “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”
     
    #62     May 24, 2017
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Not giving unfettered access to a law enforcement agency full of Republicans who were in constant contact with Giuliani during the election season is not the same as STOPPING THE FBI from investigating the crime. Why would DNC give all their internal data to Republicans in the FBI led by Republican Comey who cost Clinton the election. FBI got the data to investigate the crime - which is what you were lying about all along.

    You are a liar, you said DNC stopped the FBI from investigating the crime when in fact they gave all the data they had JUST LIKE THE NYT and that's PROTOCOL

    You can keep quoting to prove that you lied, thanks for that.
     
    #63     May 24, 2017
  4. jem

    jem

    you are a troll who refuses truth...

    The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

    “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”

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    and on top of that how do you know what data crowdstrike gave them.
    how do you know it was all of it.
     
    #64     May 24, 2017
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Again, you made the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime - NOT GIVING ALL YOUR DATA TO GOVERNMENT doesn't mean they stopped the investigation. Independent intermediaries are PROTOCOL as I quoted above.

    You lied and you got caught, if you had said DNC didn't give the servers then you would have been right but that's not what you said.

    And 'giving all of data' is another deflection, who cares, DNC didn' stop FBI from investigating as you said otherwise they won't have let Crowdstrike give ANY DATA.
     
    #65     May 24, 2017
  6. jem

    jem

    "Wow... you are nuts... so I will just respond to your first point... where you called me a liar... because your source was buzzfeed... over Comey and CNN... and every other news agency I read at the time.


    FBI: DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/politics/fbi-russia-hacking-dnc-crowdstrike/

    Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

    The FBI requested direct access to the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) hacked computer servers but was denied, Director James Comey told lawmakers on Tuesday.

    The bureau made “multiple requests at different levels,” according to Comey, but ultimately struck an agreement with the DNC that a “highly respected private company” would get access and share what it found with investigators.

    “We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.?





     
    #66     May 24, 2017
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer


    BLAH BLAH BLAH

    Right wing troll says DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime

    Then quotes a source that says DNC gave the data and assisted FBI in investigating the crime

    Troll moves on to some petty bullshit to pretend he didn't lie.

    Rinse and repeat.
     
    #67     May 24, 2017
  8. jem

    jem

    quote from dnc troll...

    "You are a liar, you said DNC stopped the FBI from investigating the crime when in fact they gave all the data they had JUST LIKE THE NYT and that's PROTOCOL"


    the dnc troll had no basis in fact for saying they gave all their data...
    and when asked he is the one who deflects.

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    so in fact even though the FBI asked repeatedly investigate the dnc computers... the dnc said no here have this report from crowdstrike.

    Dnc troll liar is now pretending that means the dnc allowed the FBI to investigate.


    "This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”"





     
    #68     May 24, 2017
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    The FBI never analyzed the computers. They relied on 3rd party information. Crowdstrike was the 3rd party.
    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...-fbi-did-request-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers

    Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers

    “We’d always prefer to have access hands-on ourselves if that’s possible,” Comey said, noting that he didn’t know why the DNC rebuffed the FBI’s request.

    “The FBI repeatedly stressed to DNC officials the necessity of obtaining direct access to servers and data, only to be rebuffed until well after the initial compromise had been mitigated,” the official said.

    “This left the FBI no choice but to rely upon a third party for information. These actions caused significant delays and inhibited the FBI from addressing the intrusion earlier.”
     
    #69     May 24, 2017
  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    I am not denying that but that doesn't support the claim that the DNC stopped FBI from investigating the crime which is what jem said. If they wanted to stop the investigation then they wouldn't have let Crowdstrike give FBI any information at all. Even NewYorkTimes followed the same procedure when they were hacked, nobody is saying NYT stopped FBI from investigating the hack.
     
    #70     May 24, 2017