Not since FDR has a president done so much to transform a country

Discussion in 'Politics' started by walter4, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. You are one ignorant but vocal dumbass.

    http://www.civil-liberties.com/pages/did_lincoln.htm

    "As the Civil War started, in the very beginning of Lincoln's presidential term, a group of "Peace Democrats" proposed a peaceful resolution to the developing Civil War by offering a truce with the South, and forming a constitutional convention to amend the U.S. Constitution to protect States' rights. The proposal was ignored by the Unionists of the North and not taken seriously by the South. However, the Peace Democrats, also called copperheads by their enemies, publicly criticized Lincoln's belief that violating the U.S. Constitution was required to save it as a whole. With Congress not in session until July, Lincoln assumed all powers not delegated in the Constitution, including the power to suspend habeas corpus. In 1861, Lincoln had already suspended civil law in territories where resistance to the North's military power would be dangerous. In 1862, when copperhead democrats began criticizing Lincoln's violation of the Constitution, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus throughout the nation and had many copperhead democrats arrested under military authority because he felt that the State Courts in the north west would not convict war protesters such as the copperheads. He proclaimed that all persons who discouraged enlistments or engaged in disloyal practices would come under Martial Law.

    Among the 13,000 people arrested under martial law was a Maryland Secessionist, John Merryman. Immediately, Hon. Roger B. Taney, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States issued a writ of habeas corpus commanding the military to bring Merryman before him. The military refused to follow the writ. Justice Taney, in Ex parte MERRYMAN, then ruled the suspension of habeas corpus unconstitutional because the writ could not be suspended without an Act of Congress. President Lincoln and the military ignored Justice Taney's ruling.

    Finally, in 1866, after the war, the Supreme Court officially restored habeas corpus in Ex-parte Milligan, ruling that military trials in areas where the civil courts were capable of functioning were illegal. "
     
    #41     Jul 2, 2010



  2. Ex parte MERRYMAN wasn't a Supreme court case,Taneys ruling was not a Supreme court ruling

    Attorney General Bates supported Lincoln suspending
    habeas corpus


    In Regards to habeas corpus


    Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution includes this clause:

    The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it


    If the Civil war wasn't a Rebellion, I dont know what the hell is.
     
    #42     Jul 2, 2010
  3. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    You've exhibited a certain kind of one-dimensionality that earns you a permanent place on my ignore list.

    ON IGNORE!

    lol
     
    #43     Jul 2, 2010
  4. I never understood why people do this:confused: .Am I supposed to be hurt because you put me on ignore ?
     
    #44     Jul 2, 2010
  5. Who gives a crap if the atty gen agreed with our self appointed dictator.

    That's nice but only if you are attempting to validate this suspension of civil liberties too.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    Somehow I suspect we can find you whining about the patriot act but here you pretend suspending civil liberties is sanctified and ones holy duty.

    abe got what he deserved albeit too late as the tyrant that he was the damage was done.
     
    #45     Jul 2, 2010
  6. When Obama starts sending people off to die in Concentration camps and starts attacking other countries in an attempt to rule the world then you can compare him to Hitler
     
    #46     Jul 3, 2010
  7. 1.Martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority.

    2.Lincoln imposed Congressionally authorized martial law

    3. As head of the US Military while the country was under Martial law,Lincoln had the right to suspend habeas corpus
     
    #47     Jul 3, 2010
  8. Thats the great thing about liberal presidents,their polices live on forever

    Lincoln kicked the shit out of the south and let them know that they follow the rules of the US and he freed the slaves

    Teddy R's government programs are still here today and they have greatly expanded

    Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), the Federal Crop Insurance Corporation (FCIC), the Federal Housing Administration (FHA), and the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), Social Security System and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) etc,all FDRs programs, live on to this day

    Johnson's Medicaid and civil rights bills live on to this day

    Like the previous liberals Obama polices will live on far after he has left the office :D
     
    #48     Jul 3, 2010
  9. "Nappy headed" is not a racist slur. Where on earth did you get that? How is "nappy headed" racial? That's almost as stupid as the guy who lost his job for saying "niggardly".

     
    #49     Jul 3, 2010
  10. "Nappy-headed" is a way of saying that your hair is all tangled up. It is the way that your hair would look if you just woke up from a nap. The term nap also has origins in yarn. If a yarn is frizzy, it is said to have a high nap, or is nappy.

    It is sometimes used to describe what happens when people with thick curly hair get matting.

    Because of this, the term is used as a racial defamatory. The term saw some negative media spotlight after being used by shock-jock radio host Don Imus, along with other negative terms, to describe a women's basketball team.

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    Nappy-headed is a very insulting way of referring to a black person as having non-white and thus inferior hair, implying that the black person is inferior as a whole. Nappy means having a nap as woolen cloth, not smooth. In 19th century literature, black people are constantly noted by whites as having less desirable physical features.
     
    #50     Jul 3, 2010