Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This is well stated.

    In medieval times there was a consensus that the sun revolved around the earth.
     
    #51     Oct 6, 2013
  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    This is bar none the stupidest comment i have ever seen on et and it goes to show just the kind of insane mind set most of these left wing, Al Gore drones are in, keep telling yourself this while you cry about global warming and install ac units for a living you moron.

    Is this the line your shady boss in the cheap suit with mustard stains on his tie gave you in order to steiffell the debate while you try too hang a new ac unit on some unsuspecting old lady who doesnt need it?
     
    #52     Oct 6, 2013
  3. "Researchers have long known that heat waves kill more people than other weather-related disasters do. And amid the hottest year on record and a scorching summer in the United States comes new research warning just how deadly heat waves can be.

    Unlike a tornado or hurricane, a heat wave's impact on human lives is usually not realized until much later. An estimated 70,000 people died when parts of Europe boiled in the summer of 2003, according to a history of that heat wave being compiled by Richard Keller, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. In contrast, the death toll from 2005's Hurricane Katrina, which ravaged New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, was 1,836.

    During the 2003 heat wave, a huge high-pressure system hung over Europe for three weeks in August, sending temperatures higher than they had climbed in hundreds of years. Electrical cables melted, water pumps failed, museum specimens liquefied and nuclear technicians had trouble keeping reactors cool. But the extent of the human toll was first detected by undertakers, who were being overwhelmed with unclaimed bodies. In Paris, some of the corpses had to be kept in a warehouse outside the city when mortuaries were full, according to Keller."

    http://www.livescience.com/22050-heat-waves-high-death-tolls.html
     
    #53     Oct 6, 2013


  4. "But heat waves kill more people in the United States than all of the other so-called natural disasters combined. More than 400 Americans die from heat-related illnesses in a typical year. Annual mortality from tornadoes, earthquakes, and floods together is under 200. Since heat waves inflict damage on the nation's major cities, well within the range of most media organizations, the lack of visibility or panic is all the more mysterious.

    Heat-wave deaths aren't the worst natural disasters only in quantitative terms, but also in qualitative ones because they're slow and preventable. There's no telling when an earthquake will strike. But dangerous heat always comes announced, and it's fairly easy to prevent human damage. Victims of heat tend to wilt gradually, alone and at home, out of touch with family, friends, and social-service providers who could save their lives simply by treating them with water or bringing them to an air-conditioned place.

    In the past three decades, New York City (1972, 1984), St. Louis (1980), Philadelphia (1993), Dallas (1998), and Milwaukee (1995) have experienced massively deadly heat waves. But in recent years, Chicago has become the national epicenter of heat mortality. This summer, Chicago had recorded 27 heat-related deaths by July 22. That's small by current standards. In one week of July 1995, 739 Chicago residents—the majority of them home alone—died in one of the greatest and least-known American disasters in modern history.

    To place the 1995 heat wave in context, think of the great Chicago fire of 1871. It killed less than half as many people. Other recent catastrophes, such as the Northridge, Calif. earthquake of 1994 or Hurricane Andrew of 1992, killed one-tenth and one-twentieth the number of people, respectively. Yet several lists of the most fatal American weather events of the 1990s fail to include the heat wave. In the words of the New England Journal of Medicine, the Chicago disaster "was forgotten as soon as the temperatures fell."

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2002/07/dead_heat.html
     
    #54     Oct 6, 2013
  5. You are a fucking lying prick. Fuck you. There is more than just one study and in fact there are multiple studies all showing the same thing.

    Every science org in the world/. 97% of all climate scientists.

    The Weather Channel. Nasa and NOAA. They all agree.

    You are a sick man.
     
    #55     Oct 6, 2013


  6. Every science org in the world. 97% of all climate scientists.

    Get help.
     
    #56     Oct 6, 2013
  7. So will you admit you are wrong and I was right? Fuck you, you ignorant right-wing asshole.
     
    #57     Oct 6, 2013
  8. What's really pathetic is that you didn't even try to educate your dumb self before jumping all over me, you stupid douchebag.

    "The numbers are striking. According to the Center for Climatic Research at the University of Delaware, an average of 1,500 American city dwellers die each year because of the heat. Annual deaths from tornadoes, earthquakes and floods together total fewer than 200.

    The most deadly heat wave in recent years occurred in Chicago over a week in July 1995, when temperatures hovered around 100 degrees. Then, over 50,000 people were left without electricity, nearly two dozen hospitals closed their doors to new patients, ambulances lined up around the block waiting to drop off victims, and the county buried 68 people in a 160-foot-long trench. Though there was some argument over numbers, scientists now say that 739 people died that week."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/13/h...ters-the-heat-wave.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
     
    #58     Oct 6, 2013
  9. jem

    jem

    Tell that to the people who take science seriously.
    This is peer reviewed.



    David R. Legates, Willie Soon, William M. Briggs, Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11191-013-9647-9

    Abstract

    Agnotology is the study of how ignorance arises via circulation of misinformation calculated to mislead. Legates et al. (Sci Educ 22:2007–2017, 2013) had questioned the applicability of agnotology to politically-charged debates. In their reply, Bedford and Cook (Sci Educ 22:2019–2030, 2013), seeking to apply agnotology to climate science, asserted that fossil-fuel interests had promoted doubt about a climate consensus. Their definition of climate ‘misinformation’ was contingent upon the post-modernist assumptions that scientific truth is discernible by measuring a consensus among experts, and that a near unanimous consensus exists. However, inspection of a claim by Cook et al. (Environ Res Lett 8:024024, 2013) of 97.1 % consensus, heavily relied upon by Bedford and Cook, shows just 0.3 % endorsement of the standard definition of consensus: that most warming since 1950 is anthropogenic. Agnotology, then, is a two-edged sword since either side in a debate may claim that general ignorance arises from misinformation allegedly circulated by the other. Significant questions about anthropogenic influences on climate remain. Therefore, Legates et al. appropriately asserted that partisan presentations of controversies stifle debate and have no place in education.








     
    #59     Oct 7, 2013
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Hey everyone, FC wrote a book.

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    #60     Oct 7, 2013