Not 97% but .3% of Climatologists agree.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    How nice. Thanksgiving greetings from FC.

    By the way... I found your self-portrait on the web.

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    #1071     Nov 28, 2013


  2. Well something did not look right. So I went to the source site and found this....

    "The data shown above includes both hurricanes and post-tropical cyclones which made landfall at hurricane strength (i.e., storms like Sandy)"

    So it excludes the vast majority of hurricanes, for no good reason, because most do not make landfall at hurricane strength.

    In other words....it's the typical half-truth bullshit that appears on denialist websites like WUWT purely for the purpose of deception and maintaining the status quo of profiteering by the FF industry.

    Given how clever the deceptions are on these websites it is not surprising that folks are a little confused.



    Like I said, hurricane intensity has increased along with water temperature because of AGW. See the chart I posted above.
     
    #1072     Nov 28, 2013
  3. Common sense says that the higher the surface temp water, the more energy there is for a hurricane, but not necessarily more of them.

    It is theorized that since the arctic is getting warmer the temp differential is becoming less, the jet stream slowing, and so the impetus for tropical cyclone creation is also decreasing.


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    #1073     Nov 28, 2013
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The data comes from NOAA - which only provides intensity data for hurricanes and tropical storms which made landfall at hurricane or tropical storm strength, not for all hurricanes. This mirrors data at the NOAA website. Is NOAA now a 'denier website that provides typical half-truth BS'?
     
    #1074     Nov 28, 2013
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    2006 was the peak of hurricane activity. Why don't you provide a chart that shows out to 2012?
     
    #1075     Nov 28, 2013
  6. If I could find it, I would post it. Maybe you can find one. One that isn't deceptive bullshit from a denial-machine website for once.
     
    #1076     Nov 28, 2013
  7. yeah, but isn't it kind of curious how all those who think climate change is man made are left leaning?

    and all those who think it is not man made are funded by Exxon?

    I only know one climatologist who I think is honest, and he believes climate change is man made, but he also believes if climate change is true, there should be fewer and fewer and weaker and weaker tornados.

    And that's what he believes will happen

    But it just makes him sick when the communists blame every big tornado on man and climate change
     
    #1077     Nov 28, 2013
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  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I saw where we supposedly had the coldest Thanksgiving in 100 years.

    How you do test previous long term lows in a supposed up trend?
     
    #1079     Nov 29, 2013
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Man made global warming? Pshh! The left likes to play the “consensus of scientists” game with climate change, and aside from the fact that consensus have nothing do do with scientific fact, the whole notion of a consensus among scientists is a myth anyway.

    from the DC:

    Not all scientists agree that global warming is man-made. Nearly half of meteorologists and atmospheric science experts don’t believe that human activities are the driving force behind global warming, according to a survey by the American Meteorological Society.

    The survey of AMS members found that while 52 percent of American Meteorological Society members believe climate change is occurring and mostly human-induced, 48 percent of members do not believe in man-made global warming.

    Furthermore, the survey found that scientists who professed “liberal political views” were much more likely to believe in the theory of man-made global warming than those who without liberal views.

    “Political ideology was the factor next most strongly associated with meteorologists’ views about global warming. This also goes against the idea of scientists’ opinions being entirely based on objective analysis of the evidence, and concurs with previous studies that have shown scientists’ opinions on topics to vary along with their political orientation,” writes survey author Neil Stenhouse of George Mason University...
     
    #1080     Nov 29, 2013