North Korea's Nuclear Weapons

For your interest - please download this satellite photo of North and South Korea taken at night. You can clearly see that North Korea is dead flat broke. There are no lights on anywhere. They must be using wax candles to light their donkey carts after dark.

Thank God I live in the USA! Communism sucks big time.

 

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Optionpro007: SA you have been posting all this time in the wrong website. !!

This is the elite"trader" website, where the best of free market and pure capitalism come together.

All your postings belong in the "welfare"bitches website.

thought you should know....



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May 19, 2006

SouthAmerica: Reply to optionpro007

You said: “This is the elite"trader" website, where the best of free market and pure capitalism come together.”

But I guess you don’t even understand the concept implied on what you are quoting.

Today South Korea is away ahead of the United States regarding Broadband connections and technology. The US is falling behind that part of the world at the speed of light.

If you understood the concept of free market and capitalism then you would look forward to the merge of both Koreas since that will open the door for investment opportunities.

When they merge South Korea will have to invest a lot of money in the North to bring their infrastructure to today’s standards – and don’t forget North Korea border China and they will be in a great position to do business with the Chinese and will profit greatly with the Chinese growing economy.

You guys are so brain washed from the cold war days and from the demonization of North Korea by the US that you guys can’t see straight anymore - even when the world is changing at the speed of light and things are changing very fast. And many of you, your brains still are frozen in the past.



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Jem: Oh yes they are eating George Bush for breakfast.


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SouthAmerica: The North Koreans have been eating the Bush administration for breakfast for years.

Please read and watch all the comments that George W. Bush made to the North Koreans since 2001.

The most respect the North Koreans did show regarding Bush and his administration was when they told them to “Get Lost.”

They kept repeating to the Bush administration “Get Lost” and mind your own business – and all the Bush administration could do was to remove the US troops from the demilitarized zone and move them away from the immediate reach of the North Koreans – the Bush administration made that move after the US troops being there for 50 years.

The talk about “Axis of Evil” on prime time – the continuous repetition I am not going to allow the North Koreans to develop nuclear weapons and so forth. – After barking and barking at the North Koreans for years – as soon as the North Koreans announced that they had the nuclear weapons – Bush did put his tail between his legs and walked away.

George Bush used to roar like a lion regarding North Korea – after the North Koreans announced that they have nukes – George Bush lion’s roar turned into a cat’s miau.

At this point the two Koreas should ignore Washington and George W. Bush completely and they should go ahead and announce that they are merging the two Koreas into one country.


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Like I said if you have nothing to lose and we are not willing to use force an eskimo in an igloo could ignore us.

That is not eating us for breakfast.

Your article lauded the North Korean leader for his brinkmanship. I believe that is a misuse of the word.

Two people or entities who have a great deal to lose can go out to the edge and play brinkmanship.

When the only play you have left is all in. (North Korea has nothing to bargain with but is soverign rule). That is not great brinksmanship, it is just a chip and a prayer something we see every night on the poker shows.

 

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Jem: Your article lauded the North Korean leader for his brinkmanship. I believe that is a misuse of the word.


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May 20, 2006

SouthAmerica: I did not write that article – that article was published on a newspaper in South Korea on May 17, 2006. That is what the South Koreans are writing about that issue.


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Jem: Two people or entities who have a great deal to lose can go out to the edge and play brinkmanship.

When the only play you have left is all in. (North Korea has nothing to bargain with but is soverign rule). That is not great brinksmanship, it is just a chip and a prayer something we see every night on the poker shows.


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SouthAmerica: You know that it is not that simple.

The Bush administration is the one that got on North Korea’s case since they got in power in January 2001.

George W. Bush said that the North Koreans belonged to an “Axis of Evil” and he did during a speech for entire world to see it.

Then he said over and over that he was not going to tolerate in any way or form a North Korea that was developing nuclear weapons. He implied that he was going to do something about because the US is so powerful – the US is the only superpower left in the world - and we can tell everybody around the world what they can and cannot do. George W. Bush believe that God appointed him policeman of the world.

The North Koreans told the Bush administration to piss off many time and “Get Lost” – and the reaction of the Bush administration has been time after time – there is a problem in translation regarding the North Koreans response.

And the North Koreans said over and over again – no, there is no problem with the translation – they said they really mean piss off and “Get Lost.”

The Bush administration whines a lot about North Korea and demands that North Korea participates on the 6 party meetings that the US requested and every time they meet the North Koreans “eat the American representatives for breakfast,” then the US cries, and whines again and has to ask China for them to do something about it.

I don’t think a real superpower would subject itself to such a public humiliation time and time again. I can’t remember the British going thru this kind of public humiliation when they were the only global superpower.



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By the way Jem, a few months ago you said you just had a baby. How your baby is doing?


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Thank you for asking. He is 6 mos old and just starting to get a little demanding. He desires to be wherever the action is and pretty much demands to be next to his brothers while they play or to be held by an adult. He no longer is satisfied with the Baby Mozart video... which in in all is a good thing but a lot of work. The good news is he sleeps through the night.

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I concede it is not that simple. But really why would anyone expect rhetoric to work on an isolated country run by a despot. North Korea has been isolated for years. They abused all previous and ignore tactics. So GWB throws up a little rhetoric to provide cover for South Korea and Japan. If the U.S. actively engaged North Korea - the rest of the world would be calling GWB a cowboy again.

Frankly, it seems like it is the Far East's mess and they need to step up to the plate. Unfortunately to some observers China, Japan and South Korea are not working from the same page. What do you propose GWB or Western World do in the interests of Asian security. Personally I do not think letting a despot develop nuclear techonolgy and delivery devices is a sane option.

 

I wonder why USA does not put Pakistan through the wringer for allowing the smuggling of the nuclear technology? They are no friends, and will turn their back on at the first opportunity. The main culprit for that smuggling deal was pardoned by the prez of Pakistan and he did not do a single day in jail. USA just sits by and observs while Pakistan pretends to help us in the war with terror. We are literally a heart beat (Pak prez's) away from nukes falling into the hands of the loonies.

 

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June 18, 2006

SouthAmerica: Quoting from the enclosed article: “On Sunday, Taro Aso, the Japanese foreign minister, told North Korea that Tokyo would regard any missile that dropped on Japan as an attack.”

I wonder what the USA and Japan can do about it.

North Korea can go ahead with their testing otherwise how do you know if the system will work when needed? – And so what, everybody knows that it is only a testing of a missile system and not a real attack – why Japan should get all worked out about it and create a new crisis when everybody knows it is just a test.

Congratulations to the North Koreans if the test works – on the other hand if the test is a bust it will be very embarrassing for the North Koreans since the spotlight is on this missile testing.



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“Japan warns N Korea on missile test”
Sunday, 18 June 2006
Aljazeera.Net


Reports say North Korea may have fuelled a long-range missile ready for a test flight, prompting Tokyo to warn that any missile falling on Japan would be considered an attack.

Satellite photographs showed fuel tanks at a missile launch site in North Korea, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said on Sunday quoting diplomatic sources in Washington.

The US, Japan and South Korea have warned North Korea against conducting an intercontinental ballistic missile test after officials said there were signs a launch could take place this weekend.

Yonhap quoted diplomatic sources in Seoul as saying on Saturday that North Korea could test a Taepodong-2 ballistic missile, with an estimated range of 3,500km to 4,300km, as early as Sunday or Monday.

The Sankei Shimbun, a Japanese newspaper, reported that North Korea had directed its people to raise the national flag and watch a message on state television on Sunday, and suggested this could be linked to a possible missile test.

In 1998, North Korea shocked the world when it fired a Taepodong-1 missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean.

Worst case scenario

On Sunday, Taro Aso, the Japanese foreign minister, told North Korea that Tokyo would regard any missile that dropped on Japan as an attack.

"The possibility is not zero of a missile dropping on Japan. That's why we are worried," he said.

"We always have to think of a worst-case scenario."

Kyodo news agency, quoting unnamed diplomatic sources in New York, said Japan and the US would seek immediate action by the UN Security Council if North Korea went ahead with a missile test.

North Korea last year declared it had nuclear weapons but then reached a broad agreement to give up its programme in exchange for aid and security guarantees.

Negotiations, with six nations including the US and Japan, broke down in November, with North Korea refusing to return to the table unless the US drops financial sanctions imposed over alleged counterfeiting and money laundering.


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June 20, 2006

SouthAmerica: The Financial Times article said: “Washington stepped up diplomatic efforts to persuade the Stalinist nation not to launch a Taepodong-2, which could reach the US. John Bolton, the US ambassador to the United Nations, said his government was consulting members of the UN Security Council on how to respond to any test.”


I would suggest the following:

Aah!!!!!

The North Korean long-range missile really works.

Congratulations.

Why don’t you guys test one of your nuclear weapons next? - to see if your nukes really works.



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The Financial Times - UK
N Korea missile threat a ‘provocative act’
By Caroline Daniel and Demetri Sevastopulo in Washington
Published: June 20 2006

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, warned North Korea on Monday that a long-range missile test would be “provocative and serious”.

Washington stepped up diplomatic efforts to persuade the Stalinist nation not to launch a Taepodong-2, which could reach the US. John Bolton, the US ambassador to the United Nations, said his government was consulting members of the UN Security Council on how to respond to any test.

“The first preference is that the North Koreans not light the missile off. We have made that clear to them,” Mr Bolton said.

The US warnings came as officials said North Korea appeared to have fuelled the Taepodong-2, a move that significantly increases the likelihood of an imminent test because it is difficult and dangerous to reverse.

One official said that while the US had not witnessed North Korea actually fuelling the missile – which could have occurred in darkness to avoid detection by US spy satellites – all the indications suggested it was loaded with fuel.

“Everything is there to lead you to the reasonable assumption that they have [fuelled the missile],” said the official. It is clearly a North Korean decision at this point. Whenever they make the decision, off it goes.”

While siphoning out the fuel would be dangerous, North Korea can also not allow the fuel to sit in the Taepodong-2 for too long because it would corrode the missile’s casing.

A launch would be North Korea’s first test of a longer-range missile since 1998, when Pyongyang generated an international crisis by unexpectedly firing an intermediate-range Taepodong-1 over Japan into the Pacific Ocean.

The yen fell to an all-time low against the euro and an eight-year low against sterling in European morning trade on Monday as fears grew about escalating regional tensions.

In a sign of heightened concern in Washington, Tony Snow, the White House spokesman, said that administration officials, including President George W. Bush, “have contacted more than a dozen heads of state”.

“This is something that the President has been working vigorously through diplomatic channels, to encourage the North Koreans to abide by their self-imposed moratorium on missile testing and also return to the talks,” Mr Snow said.

Mr Snow would not identify which leaders Mr Bush had contacted. But one official said he was due to speak with Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia, on Monday.

Ms Rice and Steven Hadley, the national security adviser, had also been “working the phones”, and that there had been contacts with North Korean representatives in New York, according to Mr Snow.

A senior administration official said: “It’s our strong desire to see North Korea abide by the 1998 moratorium.”

At the weekend Shinzo Abe, Japan’s chief cabinet secretary and a leading candidate to succeed Junichiro Koizumi as prime minister in September, warned that any launch of a missile that directly affected Japan’s security would be a violation of the 2002 Pyongyang Declaration which included a pledge to freeze indefinitely tests of missiles capable of reaching Japan.


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Now would be a good time the US to test its new laser weapon on North Korea's missile. We could focus the 4 inch diameter 150,000 watt laser beam on the missile during flight for about 5 seconds and blow it out of the sky.

 

Amen ... Amen ... Amen
Hold that laser higher
And ye shall see
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