North Colorado - The 51st State

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. pspr


    I can understand why the conservatives in northeastern Colorado want to split away from the rest of the state. Denver has been overrun with California liberals and parasite Mexicans who are taking over control of the state. I would like to see the same thing happen in California.

    There’s a growing effort to create a 51st state out of parts of northeast Colorado.

    Ten counties, including Weld and Morgan, started talking about seceding last month. Now some people Lincoln and Cheyenne counties say they want to join a new state they’d call “North Colorado.”

    Organizers of the secession effort say their interests are not being represented at the state Capitol. Representatives from the 10 counties held a meeting on Monday in the town of Akron in Weld County to begin mapping the boundaries for the new state they say will represent the interests of rural Colorado.

    The secessionist movement is the result of a growing urban-rural divide, which was exacerbated after this year’s legislation session where lawmakers raised renewable energy standards for rural electric co-ops, floated bills increasing regulations on oil and gas, and passed sweeping gun control.

    The creation of a new state comes with risks. A new state would have to draw up new water agreements which are critical to agriculture and uses 85 percent of Colorado’s water. Supporters say it also comes with new opportunities.

    “I say 80 percent of the oil and gas revenue in the state of Colorado is coming out of northeastern Colorado – Weld, Yuma County, and some of other counties,” Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway said. “Seventy percent of the K-12 funding is coming off the state lands in Weld County alone. I’m telling you we are economic drivers.”

    But not everyone is in favor of the plan.

    “I don’t want be in a 51st state. I don’t want any part of their fracking that they’re doing in Weld County,” Washington County resident Steve Frey said.

    County commissioners also discussed a backup plan should breaking away from the state not prove feasible. It involves changing the makeup of the state Senate. Rather than the current 35 Senate districts, each of the 64 counties would have its own senator.

    “We need to figure out a way to re-enfranchise the people who feel politically disenfranchised now and ignored,” Conway said.

    None of it will be easy. To change the Senate takes a ballot imitative. To form a new state, approval is needed from not only voters but the Colorado General Assembly and U.S. Congress.

    In addition, organizers say three other Colorado counties and two in Kansas have said they may join the secession movement. They hope to put the idea to voters as early as this November.

    West Virginia was the last state to have been successfully created from parts of an already existing state in 1863 when it seceded from Virginia. Prior to that three other states were created from an existing state. They are as follows:

    - Maine (from Massachusetts),
    - Kentucky (from Virginia)
    - Vermont (from New York and New Hampshire)
  2. The writings on the wall.Do to US demographics republicans are fucked.Now they are resorting to every trick they can possibly think of to stay competitive with a smaller share of the vote LOL !!!
  3. Lucrum


    More and more parasites and welfare queens isn't something to be proud of dumb ass.
  4. pspr


    We are talking about being represented at the state level. If your state isn't representing you then you do something about it.

    Your solution is to leave. So, if Republicans take the House and Senate and the Presidency in 2016 are you going to leave. I hope you do.

    Don't bother retorting that it won't happen. That's not the question posed to you.
  5. Unlike you and many of your pals I accept the will of the people even if I disagree.No,I will not leave if The GOP sweeps 2016 nor would I support succession or revolution.You never seen me say I would leave if Romney won,you never seen me say we should have overthrown Bush,you never seen me say we should have tried to secede under Bush ,you never seen me say or imply Bush should have been assassinated etc.I have seen all that from your side though.
  6. jem


    I agree to accept your system... in fact I prefer it, if your side did not forums shop for liberal judges and get them to overturn the will of the people.

    for instance the marriage law in California.

    If the left is going to play politics so should the right.
  7. So you are against gay marriage in California then, right? I mean since the prop 8 vote made it illegal and that was the will of the people, right?
  8. pspr


    See Peil's comment above. I'm glad to see you will bend to the will of the people. I hope that includes the decision of the jury in the Zimmerman case. As we did in the OJ Simpson case even though there was serious racial bias in the jury.

    I don't think anyone here has advocated assassination of Obama. We would like to see impeachment or other legal/natural methods of removal applied, however.

    If he ever broke into one of our homes he would be playing with fire, though. :D