Noob with Qs

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Apexmaster37, Nov 8, 2022.

  1. Don’t even bother. Spend that money on a nice holiday, food and wine. Or save them.

    The best advice you ever got which you ain’t gonna follow. :)
     
    #11     Nov 8, 2022
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  2. alistera

    alistera

    That's all very nice but everyone is poor today, if not in money then absolutely in lifestyle, trading is one of the few things in the world that allows you to not be some vassel to whoever higher up it is, today that's mostly everyone, which is why it is made almost impossible for anyone to succeed.

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    This was quoted by endless people of the crowd following the crowd, someone showed it to me years ago and noted, if you look closely there is an almost invisible fence, it was before the article was written.

    https://factcheck.afp.com/there-was-fence-which-forced-these-sheep-go-through-gate-australia

    That is the world of trading, an almost invisible fence forcing you in to a path, which does not have a good outcome for you unless you know it's there, while everyone is saying look, no fence!
     
    #12     Nov 9, 2022
  3. Winning in the lottery would also take care of your lifestyle needs, but the probabilities for winning are very low. Trading to amass wealth or even just a living is just as probable for the OP or anyone who are new to this game as it is to win a lottery.

    That's not to say it isn't possible, but it certainly is for the few and it will take a ton of work to get there.

    All the self-help in the world will not change that fundamental fact.
     
    #13     Nov 9, 2022
  4. GoldDigger

    GoldDigger



    Probability is low that a person will win the main prize,
    that is true.

    But people forget about the secondary prizes, of which
    there are many.

    Take yesterday's $2.04B PowerBall jackpot. In that
    game, there were 22 $1M dollar prizes, and countless
    smaller ones.

    When playing the lottery, especially with such a large
    jackpot, people should seek to win a smaller prize.

    The same principle applies to trading. If people had
    reasonable expectations, they would have a much
    greater chance of success.

    It doesn't take that much to compound and grow an
    account. All that is required is knowledge, patience,
    and being consistent.

    Do the math. Seriously. Get a calculator and do the
    actual math.

    BTW, I am referring to day trades.
     
    #14     Nov 9, 2022
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    That is a terrible analogy. The only possible way a comparison to trading can be made to winning a lotto prize is a binary option. You bet a few bux. You are either going to win the option or lose it, but the most you will lose is the few bux. Same with the lottery. You are either going to win a lottery prize, which can be small or huge, but the most you will lose is the few bucks.

    When you play a lotto, you do not "play for the smaller prizes", since you do not have an option to play for a smaller prize. You place your bet, and you win what you win, but at least your loss is limited. Your bet IS the stop loss.

    In trading you can set your targets to whatever level you choose. You cannot do that with a lottery.
     
    #15     Nov 9, 2022
  6. GoldDigger

    GoldDigger



    I wasn't even comparing trading to the lottery,
    but responding to the previous comment, and
    addressing probabilities.

    But I'm not a mathematician or statistician.

    Playing for secondary prizes is an actual strategy,
    have you ever read a book on playing lotto?

    Please elaborate on how you can set your targets
    in trading to whatever level you choose, since
    I specified that I was referring to day trades.
     
    #16     Nov 9, 2022
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    It's in the last sentence I typed.
     
    #17     Nov 10, 2022
  8. GoldDigger

    GoldDigger

    #18     Nov 10, 2022
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    I'll make it visual for you.

    Here I am betting a fixed amount, 20 points is most I can lose, ASSUMING I DO NOT MOVE MY STOP...

    But I can go for a small win...
    nqtarget1.JPG

    A medium-sized win...
    nqtarget2.JPG

    Or a jackpot win...

    nqtarget3a.JPG

    You cannot do this with a lottery.

    Make sense now from a day-trading perspective?
     
    #19     Nov 10, 2022
  10. GoldDigger

    GoldDigger



    Thank you for your time, but once again,
    I was addressing the probability of winning
    the lottery to another member.

    And you buttinskied with a dissertation that
    should have been addressed to them.

    I asked you to elaborate on how you can set
    your targets in trading to WHATEVER level
    you choose.

    Instead you brushed me off and then you
    posted these useless futures charts.

    Take my advice, Cramer, stop spending so
    much time on this forum because you do
    not provide a pleasant experience, you are
    not helpful at all, you are not very good at
    elaborating, and I don't need a forum pen
    pal right now.

    Have a nice evening.
     
    #20     Nov 10, 2022