well i dont like to put my neck on the chopping block but here goes. I think it could minus 250 thousand to 300 thousand. yes thats right -250k to -300 k . possible more. my reasoning. the bls birth/death model has added quite a lot of jobs each month for the last 6 months based on their own model assumption. every january and july for the last 6 years they have only had a negative birth/death number which when subtracted from non-farm has made it less. the reason they do this is a tweak of the number in relation to the reality of the previous 6 months. well the last 6 months with yesterdays weak gdp will only confirm they have been too optimistic and their model needs adjusting. with the natural layoffs occuring and the birth/death model being adjusted to the downside i think we will see a significant negative number. bond futures and fixed income have been well bid all week even when the stocks had the up days. could be wrong but im positioned accordingly.