Nobody Knows The Number

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by apdxyk, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. FrankInLa

    FrankInLa

    Ever heard of a second wave and repeat infections? If you seriously believe this will be beaten in 2 or 3 months then you are probably slightly naive. It will be beaten when a cure and vaccine arrives.

     
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    #21     Apr 5, 2020
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  2. FrankInLa

    FrankInLa

    Incorrect. Sweden now makes a u-turn and considers lock downs due to increasing infection numbers. Also Sweden spent almost 5.5% of its annual GDP while the US spent 10%. Sweden's numbers are not dropping, they are increasing most recently.

     
    #22     Apr 5, 2020
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  3. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Second Wave, only if we leave a large portion without it, it's already beyond that uk.

    I don't think it's a real thing, I think it's a media hyped mass hysteria cluster fuck.

    Example....

    UK Hospitals are know filling up, few admissions, but staff shortages so nobody is being discharged, likely due to people self isolating in a country where 80% already have it.
     
    #23     Apr 5, 2020
  4. FrankInLa

    FrankInLa

    Sure Dr. Turveyd, I don't need to be asked whether I gamble a future of a country on some out-of-the-air hunches and baseless predictions or rather take this seriously and be overly cautious.



     
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  5. Turveyd

    Turveyd


    So it's okay to gamble the economy, peoples jobs, put people into poverty for years to come on your out-of-the-air hunches and baseless predictions.

    Interesting.
     
    #25     Apr 5, 2020
  6. virtusa

    virtusa

    Medical science is not an exact science.
    It is not like math where 1+1 always equals 2.

    So the real numbers can only be known afterwards. That's the problem.

    Maybe it will appear then that we did not gamble the economy, peoples jobs, put people into poverty for years to come by savings as much people as possible. Which means that we then maybe killed thousands of people for nothing just to save things that did not need to be saved.

    There are out-of-the-air hunches and baseless predictions in both approaches.
     
    #26     Apr 5, 2020
  7. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Agreed!! Except for No Doubt at all economy is being screwed that's a definate.


    But still all the countrys are going HARD SAVE PEOPLE ( unless there in a OAP home cause we don't really care, we just want to screw up the economy to make more rebuilding it )/

    Surely they should put some measures in, slow the spread you know go 50/50 until we do know what we are dealing with ??

    Mountain Bike Ride, theory is due to people going in parks and the beach, where the wind harmlessly disperses the virus which is why we locked down, public outcry, where banning Excersize outside soon, so better get my riding in the day in, cause it'll be sneak to canal at night for a blast away from towns only soon :(
     
    #27     Apr 5, 2020
  8. FrankInLa

    FrankInLa

    You have to make a decision based on two bad choices. What you are trying to convince yourself of is that there is a third choice, one where you open up the economy, everyone gets sick quickly with minimal deaths and then it is all over. That choice does not exist. At least there is nothing out there that supports the existence of such third choice. But it does not hurt to hope and pray.

    By the way per Wsj report just 29% of the economy is currently offline. Not your entire shutdown claim. That means everyone affected has to tighten their belts but they are not gonna starve to death. It's worth the sacrifice in exchange for getting those numbers down and infections isolated.

     
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    #28     Apr 5, 2020
  9. FrankInLa

    FrankInLa

    Exactly, and because there is no certainty among any of the two choices I think humanity generally votes for lives over money in the absence of any additional information.

     
    #29     Apr 5, 2020
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  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    We gonna get an answer to the question of "taking like a man" approach soon enough. Brazil, Belarus,etc.
    Even Sweden up to a degree. In 4-5 weeks we will know if it was worth it to try to save the elderly.

    Oh yeah, and old people tend to vote, unlike the youth.
     
    #30     Apr 5, 2020
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