No way Obama wins a second term

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ang_99, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. Obama said we would be out of Iraq in 18 months,the legislation is passed,there is nothing for him to do

    The stimulus has not failed,it was meant to kick in at the start of re election season.Whether you think it succeeded or failed,the fact is he got it passed,that is the point,that was his agenda

    Gitmo and Iraq take time,what matters is the policy for gitmo to close and the Iraq war to end is set,that was his agenda

    he said during the campaign he would escalate the Afghanistan war,and he has.Once again,he succeeded at his agenda
     
    #41     Aug 12, 2009
  2. You sure about that smart guy ?



    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-04-19-Health-overhaul_N.htm

    Democrats probably will allow the use of a legislative device that would let them pass a health bill in the Senate with 51 votes, instead of the 60 needed to defeat a filibuster. Republicans say that would be an act of bad faith and could poison chances for a deal.
     
    #42     Aug 12, 2009

  3. Doctor Howard Dean: Democrats only need 51 votes in Senate to pass health care reform


    Doctor Howard Dean was a guest on Countdown last night and he made the point that I have made here previously: Democrats don't need 60 votes for cloture in the Senate to end a filibuster by Republicans of health care reform. Only 51 votes are needed in the Senate because the health care reform bill falls under the purview of budget reconciliation, thanks to the Rules Committee. 'Countdown with Keith Olbermann' for Tuesday, July 7:

    OLBERMANN: [W]ith [Al] Franken now on the health committee, can Harry Reid—if he can‘t muster 60 votes for health care reform—are we sure that he can muster 60 votes to stop Republicans from filibustering health care reform?

    DEAN: We don‘t need 60 votes from health care reform. All we need is 51. We have reconciliation. The Republicans made it really clear there‘s not going to be any kind of a bipartisan solution that‘s going to be any good. All of the demands that they made have essentially already gutted health care reform.

    So, the real only solution here is to get to 51 votes. I don‘t think Al Franken went to the Senate to be a rubber stamp. I know the Senate‘s used to being a rubber stamp from when President Bush was around. But this Senate is not going to be a rubber stamp. They‘re going to do what they think is it right, and hopefully, that will be what the American people want.

    OLBERMANN: You know, we talked about rubber-stampness last time, and obviously, Democrats got to where they are today by running a nationwide progressive agenda. What happens to the party now if Senator Reid and President Obama let a handful of so-called blue dogs hold that agenda hostage or even slow it down?

    DEAN: Well, then there‘s trouble. We‘re going to lose seats in 2010 if we don‘t pass what the president said was change you can believe in.

    You know, change—a little change is not change you can believe in.

    You need a lot of change, and the president‘s delivered on that so far.

    But the health care reform is his biggest—his biggest problem.

    You know, the issue is not so much blue dogs running the show or whatever. The issue is people not having enough nerve, you know, not having enough spine to do the right thing. Look, this is a battle between the insurance companies and the American people. Seventy-two percent of the American people want a really good health care reform bill that includes their ability to choose between a public and private plan -- 72 percent.

    So this change—this is not about being conservative or liberal. This is about whether you side with the insurance companies or whether you side with the American people, and it‘s as simple as that. And now, we‘re going to find out whether this is really change you can believe in or something else.

    OLBERMANN: As you correctly point out, the public‘s always ahead of the media and the politicians on these things, and if the politicians and the media don‘t listen, they pay the price.

    Sen. Harry Reid has purportedly instructed his lieutenants: "Forget the Republicans." They are obstructionists who only seek to preserve the status quo; they are not agents of change. Republicans will do everything in their power to obstruct the change that the American people have demanded with their votes in the past two elections. Their partisan goal is to embarrass President Obama with failure on health care reform, as they did to President Clinton. Any Blue Dog Democrats who want to side with Big Pharma and Big Insurance over the will of the American people do so at their own peril.
     
    #43     Aug 12, 2009
  4. How much does Baron pay you to post on this website and generate "web-activity"?

    Does it pay for your latte every morning on the way to school?
     
    #44     Aug 12, 2009
  5. Agreed 100%

    But don't forget to add Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingram, and Mann Coulter to your list of lunatic fringe self-promoters in the GOP.

    They will stoop to any level, including "eating" their own. Just ask John and Cindy McCain.
     
    #45     Aug 12, 2009
  6. You are right about that,But Obama has accomplished more towards universal health care then any other president.(And he has only been in office for 8 months)





    HEALTH IN U.S. HISTORY

    A look at the history of major health coverage initiatives by presidents:

    1950: Harry Truman's proposal for national health insurance dies in Congress.

    1965: Lyndon Johnson wins passage of Medicare and Medicaid.

    1974: Richard Nixon's proposal to require employers to cover workers dies in Congress.

    1979: Jimmy Carter's proposal for an employer requirement dies in Congress.

    1994: Bill Clinton's plan, which includes an employer requirement, dies in Congress.

    1997: Clinton and a Republican Congress agree to expand coverage for low-income children.

    2003: George W. Bush wins passage of Medicare prescription benefit.

    2009: Barack Obama proposes to cover the uninsured and contain costs.

    Sources: Kaiser Family Foundation, Associated Press
     
    #46     Aug 12, 2009
  7. saxon

    saxon

    lol...palin MUST run.

    she's the last, best hope on earth for ambitious incompetents.

    i can't wait.
     
    #47     Aug 13, 2009
  8. saxon

    saxon

    Face it...Chuck is as queer as a nine dollar bill.
     
    #48     Aug 13, 2009
  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    LMAO,.....If that were true he'd be backing the DNC.
     
    #49     Aug 13, 2009
  10. No, closet queers back RNC...it's their base actually (Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, the guy with 3 failed marriages and no kids).
     
    #50     Aug 13, 2009