No way Obama wins a second term

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ang_99, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. What could be worst then lying on a ballot application regarding your qualifications to hold the office you are running for?

    Hookers are nothing compared to lying on a ballot application claiming to be a natural born citizen when you are not.

    John
     
    #31     Aug 12, 2009
  2. If (when) the economy turns around, Obama will cruise, like Reagan did in 1984.

    The Democrats will probably lose some US House seats as well as some governors races in 2010, though.

    In the long term, demographically, the Democrats look strong. The GOP, on the other hand, has rapidly descended into madness (birthers, deathers, gun-toting shouters, Orly Taitz).

    We independents are not impressed.
     
    #32     Aug 12, 2009
  3. If only you could prove you silly claim, then you might have a leg to stand on...

    As it stands however...


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    #33     Aug 12, 2009
  4. Obama has not even been in office for 8 months and he working on becoming a lameduck. He has a super majority in the Senate and big edge in the house but still he cannot get his agenda through. That is absotuley embarrassing. Based on that alone it seems Obama is well left of center on most issues. A lot of Americans were not aware of that in 2008 but they will know this in 2012.

    Second of all, what is his campaign in 2012 going to be based on. Obama has already killed the change and the hope. He has not delivered on either one of those. He has failed to get rid of most of the Bush policies that he was sent to DC to undo.

    All he really has left at this point is Bush bashing but that has gotten old and tired for the majority of Americans. As time passes and the memories of GWB fade Obama's Bush bashing will look even more desperate.
     
    #34     Aug 12, 2009
  5. These memories never fade, they only get better over time...

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    #35     Aug 12, 2009
  6. You must be blind.Obama has gotten most of his agenda through in only 8 months

    Obamas major promises was ending the Iraq war in 18 months,A Economy/Stimulus Package,Closing Guantanamo and health care

    3 out of 4 of those are complete.Health care is the biggest social change in this countries history since Social security.Health care clearly was going to be tough,but no President has gotten this far for health care for every American.A house bill will pass,The Senate has said they want more votes but they have 51 votes if they have to ram a bill through.

    I wouldn't call Ending a war,a 800 billion dollar stimulus and near universal health care in less then a year not getting an agenda through
     
    #36     Aug 12, 2009
  7. No because now he has a record. Before he was a made up story that was sold by the MSM.

    He can't hide now from himself as he could before.

    It depends on Palin. I wish she would go away but I am afraid she is going run third party.

    John
     
    #37     Aug 12, 2009
  8. +1

    It's a matter of demographics combined with a lack of leadership among the GOP. A moderate right leader could possibly compete in 2012; this is because there are enough centre Dems who are against what are perceived as the overly socialist bent of the Obama administration. Trouble is, there isn't one in sight and the GOP don't seem interested in finding one. They voted for Obama this time out of sentiment and because of the horror story that was the Bush administration, but also because they had no choice (because of Palin, not John McCain).

    It is still hard to believe that the GOP brain trust ran Palin. There is no better indicator of the depths to which the GOP have sunk.

    If the GOP can't get it's shit together enough to understand that a candidate who believes a gang-raped 12-year old child should be forced by law to carry to term a pregnancy that results from the rape is a fucking nutcase, they don't deserve to lead. What's that? This is just common sense? Yep, it is. But it seems to have escaped Sarah Palin and the rest of the GOP brain trust.
     
    #38     Aug 12, 2009

  9. Wow, another short bus response. Good boy!!!!
     
    #39     Aug 12, 2009

  10. huh?

    Promising a end to the war is not an end to the war. Not only that he is escalating the war in Afganistan and there is no real plan there.

    The Stimulus package has failed. He promised unemployment would not pass 8% and it has.

    He has not closed Gitmo and it looks extremely unlikely his deadline will be met. Even if he closes it, he is still going to detain terrorism suspects indefinately so whats the difference. Even if they close gitmo they are going to continue the practices that are occuring at gitmo somewhere else. Whats the difference?

    He has not passed healthcare. It was supposed to be passed by the August recess. It has not occured. Maybe you have not watched the news but there is major pushback against healthcare. Its not over yet, but it looks very possible he could fail on this. One other point to note. This bill is not universal healthcare. Even if he gets it through there will be 10s of millions uninsured.

    He has also failed on the Cap and Tax which ain't going through.

    He doesn't need 51 he needs 60. There are currently 60 in the Senate that caucus with the democrats but there are not 60 who will vote for Obamacare. That means there are members of his own caucus that think his plan is way over the top. Thats not good.


    It appears the blind one is you.
     
    #40     Aug 12, 2009