No "natural" herd immunity - multiple patients catch COVID-19 with symptoms a second time

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, May 16, 2020.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    Once, you get a virus, you become immune to it. That is science. I have gotten smallpox and measles as a child and have not had it again in my lifetime. So, you are using 8 sailors on infections numbering in the millions? How insignificant it is? Also, contradicting science that has survived how many generations? So, these hacks writing an article trying to put a narrative on very likely, faulty test results?
     
    #11     May 18, 2020
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  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Do you have any information on the first 5 who showed symptoms? Based anecdotally on my brother's experience with the virus, he thought he was over it and a week later experienced symptoms again. Wondering the time lapse between the two events.
     
    #12     May 18, 2020
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    There are like 9 strains of Coronavirus out there. How sensitive are the tests to the different strains? Skeptical cat is skeptical.
     
    #13     May 18, 2020
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The articles and the commentary from the military spokesperson provided information on the first 5. No details appear to been provided on the next 8. The science community is debating whether the sailors got re-infected, or if the virus can remain dormant in your body then reactivate.
     
    #14     May 18, 2020
  5. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    There are so many possibilities for the second positive that no one can know where to begin. The one thing that I seriously doubt is that the same person was re-infected with the same virus (strain) and impacted by it. This isn't some alien virus from some science fiction novel.
     
    #15     May 18, 2020
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  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    Now, there was an article about getting positives from dead Corona Virus cells in the patient's body. So, dead Corona Virus particles that adhered to your skin gives a positive reading when they are dead and harmless. That is why you have to re-test a person multiple times, using different test kits and different methods if you get negative readings then, positive readings afterwards. You know there is a mistake somewhere. Only way you know for sure a person is positive or negative to the Corona Virus.
     
    #16     May 18, 2020
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I doubt whether more than one virus strain is floating around a naval carrier and Guam at this point.
     
    #17     May 18, 2020
  8. smallfil

    smallfil

    There are a lot of defective test kits out there. The reason the European Union and China is at loggerheads over it and China exacting revenge by delaying orders of medical equipment and medical supplies by opening each and every package bound for Europe and the US. In addition, dead Corona Virus cells give out positive readings. That happened in the Phillippines where politicians with positive Corona Virus readings, got well and then, got tested negative then, tested positive again. They finally, discovered it was the dead Corona Virus cells which are harmless causing the false positive readings. So, those politicians were in fact, cured 100%.
     
    #18     May 18, 2020
  9. jem

    jem

    Could anyone anti herd immunity person explain how a vaccine would work to build up immunity but not exposure to the actual virus?

    This is a serious question for those who say there can not be herd immunity?
    Why then would you believe vaccines will work?
     
    #19     May 18, 2020
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    A vaccine actually is the virus itself injected into your body to develop your immunity. As one doctor noted, you cannot develop immunity to the Corona Virus until you are exposed to the Corona Virus itself. That is the reality itself. The same with the yearly flu vaccine they inject us with.
     
    #20     May 18, 2020
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