No love

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by masterm1ne, May 12, 2012.

  1. I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but love not something that you can "get". It's not a "target". It does not respond to artificial behavior.

    Love is a gift. It's much easier to find if you start giving it away first.
     
    #71     Aug 15, 2012
  2. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    clearly this is too deep for what op has in mind.
     
    #72     Aug 15, 2012
  3. nkhoi ur wrong. I agree with WT... his statement is wise. The caveat is (most people) really only love a small # of people. To find those few people you must filter through the masses.

    I am such a high value male for my age, I realized that I simply filter too many people into my valueless bucket. The only problem with this is this results in very 'bad' thinking sometimes. Most of my lateral workers are older, and many of my subordinates are older. How much value can they offer if I am younger and am lateral/superior? So of course I realize this is 'bad' and I'm trying to correct it by increasing general social time, and appreciating everyone I have in my life.

    I have seen psychiatrists/psychologist. No I'm not on psych meds (I'm trying provigil ATM but after a couple days I'm probably gonna drop it, I don't feel any different after taking it). These people were uselful. They helped me realized things about myself such as general emotional detachment. This occured because of my persistent self sufficiency paired with both of my sibilings lackthereof. Self sufficiency of children causes parents to tend more often to the sibilings that aren't. These childhood things always translate to adulthood, and most people aren't even aware of them (I wasn't aware till I saw my psychiatrist).

    This causes a very toxic circle: Emotionally, I am conditioned to detachment from others, and self sufficiency doesn't urge me to bring many people into my life.

    I'll ask you a question nhoki. Have you 'loved' everyone you've fucked?Don't need to answer, it's rhetorical.

    I also don't 'have anything in mind,' unless you meant that I was just generally trying to open myself socially to men and especially women. I've merely learned approach & conversation tactics as well as some ways to increase touch and attempt to get sex with women.
     
    #73     Aug 15, 2012
  4. A couple of things I need to make note of for myself:

    I keep failing to 'game' women that I come into contact with on a daily basis. I think it's just habbit that prevents me from talking to girls I see every day and I find attractive. I also find myself worrying about what others think if I approach a woman. I often feel I'm not dressed correctly, or shouldn't because of reason X.

    One of my other problems is I feel like I'm inadequate. Don't have enought money, the best clothes, the best appartment, etc... Sometimes, I have to spend a lot of energy convincing myself that I'm entitled.

    Even though I can rationalize and have actual statistics to back up how idiotic the two things above are, I still do them... I think over time my inner AFC will die... Hopefully reminding myself will kill him: Graduated 1 of 4 Summa Cum Laude in my college program, earn ~$50k a year, top 15% of AF fitness standards, many compliments from women about looks (usually not ones im interested in). This is why such a huge part of game is mental. Impossible to succeed if I put myself down.

    I remember, of the girls that I could tell that liked me in college, I would introduce myself usually in some random method. I opened one girl by offering her some study materials. I studied with her, went out in a group a couple of times with her and eventually was one on one with her in her dorm room. I was too stupid to read the signs. Later on she admitted she liked me. I never said or did anything to show I was interested in her....

    Another young woman I started speaking spanish with in a computer lounge in our university's cafeteria. After introducing myself, I basically ignored her. She came over to me to talk a few times, but after I got to know her I wasn't interested in her any more. Don't know if she really liked me but it was possible.

    Another girl introduced herself to me, said "hi" to me every time we saw each other, and I eventually ignored her. I think she gave up after that as I showed no interest in her and never talked to her. Again, how stupid of me.

    I recently went out to a few places around the city. The river walk, chunky's burgers, flying saucer, sea world, the falls (nightclub) and taco taco. It's hard to game when you have a friend that's in town for a short time and you want to hang out with him. Insert lame excuse here.

    I don't see many options when I go out around here. The women I notice are either draging a child behind them or being gropped by some guy. Sea world is apparently the spot to bring your child. Never going there agian unless its with a friend/group.

    I opened a 3 set at the river walk, but wasn't really interested in the girl. Just made a couple of remarks about how it looked like the people outside were getting drenched by the mist coming out of the building. There was really no excuse for not gaming. In this case she was working. Not much of an excuse.

    My friend and I were the only 2 in Chunky's burgers for a good while. We did a good job of talking to the women that were working there. However, we didn't attempt to close any of them. We had serveral opportunities and nothing to lose. I'm quickly finding out you don't have any better of an opportunity than this.

    The flying saucer was pretty lame. It seemed that most people there were in their own social groups/couples. I'm not one of those guys that really wants to entertain or intrude on a bunch of people. Everyone is sitting at a table with friends or at the bar talking with someone. If I get desperate enough I might start injecting myself into these groups. My friend and I didn't talk with anyone at the flying saucer.

    I joined my friend and his cousin/husband at sea world. Like I said, I saw families there. It would have felt very awkward attempting to game females here. I probably am thinking to much. I should have just opened people for practice. It's difficult to do though if you don't want to lose your group or if you truly trying to spend time with a good male friend.

    We went out to the falls this past Saturday. We got there around 10:45 pm and the croud was lame at the main bar, and there was no one at the dance floor.. I know that clubs don't usually fill up till later on in the night here. It took me a while to warm up. I was determined not to drink becuase alcohol slows me down too much if I'm trying to game. After I had been dancing on the floor for a while, I opened a two set my friend pointed out (over the shoulder). I opened with "Are you trying to text me?," as the girl I spoke to had her phone out. She looked at me then looked back at her phone. I think I followed with "You guys know this is a dance club right?" and asked why they weren't dancing. They replied it was too cold. So I said, "you know if you go out there and start moving around you will warm up.... movement gets blood circulating." They got a good laugh at that and just looked at me. They didn't move, and said nothing back. So I said, "No?" in the context of, do you understand? And they just giggled .... so I walked away.

    The crowd was skim pickings for sure. When they started playing some line dances I went out and started making a fool of myself as I didn't know several of them. But who cares, I did my own thing, and mixed it up. I think I have good rhythm when I get warmed up. I was a huge idiot and saw many girls checking me out but I still just did my own thing. It would be easy to open them. Soon my buddy started dancing with some girl that was ok looking. I saw this guy staring so hard at my friend, it creeped me out... I eventually ended up dancing (grinding) with this tall black girl after gaming her a bit. My comments threw her off as I opened with "Are you trying to dance with me?" after the second/third time her friend and her came over and danced near me. She stopped dancing while I continued. She made some remark like "Am I dancing with you?" But I wasn't about to fail a shit test or show weak frame. I replied "I'm dancing, but you aren't" or something like that. So she started dancing again. I played very cocky game and said to her freind, "I think your friend likes me." So we grinded for a little bit and talked. I put my hand on her hips and prickly hair... it was kinda gross, but no big deal to a big player like me. I made her laugh. That's what is important.

    The place seemingly completely changed after this event happened. This guy was standing there watching the girl and I dance.... later when they started playing line dancing music agian, he came over, put his arm around me (not homosexually), and tried to help me learn line dancing. While I was line dancing, I got slight kino from this girl dressed in a white and black tiger striped dress. She was trying to help me dance. I hadn't even talked to tiger dress. After busting a few more moves, my wing and I called it quits.

    Before we left, my friend saw the girl he was dancing with making out with some bald guy, and I saw the girl that danced with me with some giant odd looking black man. I couldn't really care less lol....

    All in all I had a blast. I opened a few sets, but I never focused on getting a number. I really wasn't feeling any of the girls I talked to. It's pretty much just another lame excuse not to act. I'm close to just asking for everyone's number just for practice.

    I guess I shouldn't let guys or anything else (except children) deter me. Truly u never know who the guy is, how old they are or if the child is actually theirs.
     
    #74     Aug 20, 2012
  5. So... I've asked 2 LTs out, not really on dates. Still pending decisions.

    Got plans to go to a Long bar as a meet up function on Saturday. I'm gonna try to make 930 mass Sunday.

    I need to track down some local colleges to lurk when I have the time.

    I'm still in the process of redoing my warddrobe. I realize the type of class I look for I don't display myself. Therefore, I'm getting some nice pants, belts, ties, etc. maybe a couple of suit tops... but that's much for the heat here.
     
    #75     Aug 23, 2012
  6. So I think I'm finally starting to put this thing together.

    Since I meet a lot of people by the nature of my job right now, I have developed a routine like the best PUAs do for 'job' game.

    Basically I'll be introduced to or meet a girl, and then because of the circumstances, I'll email them. Smooth email game has led to 3 out of 3 # closes just this week.

    The key is I don't really ask for a # for a date. I ask for a # and say there is a public gathering, and I'll invite them along. This works so much better because it's easier for a girl to say 'yes' to.

    So far, I'm only considering 2. One of the women is in a serious relationship. So I'll let her go, and ask the other 2 out sometime to a public gathering.

    I am being extremely quick with the work game because it's what the best PUAs suggest, as well as what is in my best interest. Obviously, it would be really difficult to kino or kiss close at work esp in the military.

    -"Too much circulation makes the price go down: The more you are seen and heard from, the more common you appear."

    I've repeated in my head 1,000 times today... "He's just so fucking alpha..."
     
    #76     Aug 24, 2012
  7. Went out this past Fri/Sat/Sun...

    Went to big Lous Fri... I am starting to dispise going anywhere with certain goals (eating) and trying to game. When you are trying to game and you have other goals a conflict often arises as to which to take care of....

    I could have potentially opened a few sets, and we did, but since my friend and I were trying to eat, and public restaruants aren't the best place for much more than talking, the only goal would have been number closing (this is often the case when first meeting someone - you just want to give a good first impression, get name & # and make yourself scarce).

    My big night was saturday night. I went to a place called Longbar. There was a singles meetup there from meetup.com and other websites. I invited a girl I number closed at work (another LT) but she warned me earlier in the week she probably was gonna be out of town, and she still was when I went. So I went solo.

    I really calculated my look; I wore a light teal dress collared shirt, unbuttoned at the top to show more skin, a V neck undershirt, black pants, and leather black shoes. Fukin' smooth kid right here.

    I had such a good time. It was really easy to open people because I had an easy opener given to me. Everyoen was given a ticket and you were supposed to find the person with your matching ticket. So often times I would just flash my ticket at someone and they would start talking to me.

    The first couple sets I talked to I had absolutely no interest in any of the women. This was a good move however, because I fucked up a little. However, once I was warmed up, I performed better. I talked to nearly every woman in the place by the end of the night.

    The only problem at this place was the crowd was mostly over my age. I didn't care, but the girls that I talked to did. Of the attractive girls I approached (5), three of them had children, and had at least 1 decade of age on me... I'm never good at spotting this.

    One of the cougars was eye molesting me from a distance, after I had been in many sets. When we finally go close enough, I opened her and she almost immediately screened me for my age. She dumped me soon after.

    I number closed one of these women (cougar?), as she said I would be perfect for her except for the fact I am so young... lol. She gave me many indicators of interest. I smiled, negged her playfully, made her laugh, and she forced me to demonstrated higher value to her, as she made me qualify myself to her. This happened because I tried to convince her age is mostly irrelevant.

    The other 2 i tried to number close were: 1). the only girl I met that was close to my age (22), she was a nursing student, and was single. I got her number. 2). the DJ... I think I didn't demonstrate enough value to her. On top of that she was 'working.' She was around my age so she said, and was ok looking. I tried to pick her up using a pen and napkins, but she was being too difficult. She kept saying "this is weird" and other stupid shit. So I eventually gave up as she didn't respond to my tactics of evoking humor, even though she was giggling a little. My game was pretty shit I have to admit. I just basically went for laughter.

    I think I need to review how to disarm bitch sheilds. I noticed the more attractive a woman is and the less baggage they carry they often will carry a gigantic bitch sheild.... I sat down in an empty chair and the closest girl said "that seats taken" to me. She was thin, and sorta pretty. I hadn't even noticed if it was or not, but I said "I'll get up when they come back." I was talking over my shoulder, and sitting next to my new 'wing/pivot' I had number closed. I don't know if it's a bad habbit or not (i haven't lost anything by doing it yet), but if someone starts giving me attitude off the bat I usually counter with some prick-ish comeback. I really need to neg these stupid women. On the way out, I said high to 2 girls. They were both cute, the shorter one said hi back, and the taller didn't respond. I should have been faster on my feet and said "does your friend speak?" or some sort of neg. I could see my reflection in the bitch sheild she was carrying.

    I give myself a B+ for the night. I left out one crucial ingredient most the entire night: kino. I never really touched any of the girls I talked to which I need to remember to do next time. Anyway, I have plans to meet her again sometime, possibly this week. She speaks spanish and had good energy.

    Sunday night was lame. Several girls I wanted to speak to were out of reach and working. I also had another agenda. O well, good thing va-jay jays aren't scarce.
     
    #77     Aug 28, 2012
  8. Brass

    Brass

    The take-away:
     
    #78     Aug 28, 2012
  9. I presented myself in a laid back manner, using non threatening body language and using humor.... don't know how much normal I could have been...

    More likely....

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    Every other woman I talked to seemed to enjoy chatting and laughed on cue..
     
    #79     Aug 28, 2012
  10. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    more likely she already spotted you working the room and figured out what you up to.
     
    #80     Aug 28, 2012