I am starting to realize that it is impossible to have an honest debate here. Maybe that's the problem with politics now a days.
My brother in law would have pool parties, everyone there is a democrat. They would all be sitting around and I'd throw in a few pro Bush comments, or tell them I got a new dog and named him Cheney, crist they would get so worked up among themselves I would back up twenty yards and enjoy the arguements and they would forget all about me.