No day trader on this planet can make yearly profits

Discussion in 'Trading' started by teewoods, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. heispark

    heispark

    I know there are people who believe Ricky is a scam. Personally, I think he's a legit. In his live trading room, he trades in real time and everybody can see the identical chart and price in real time. In this way, manipulation is almost impossible. He's just a genius and wise young man.
     
    #31     Nov 13, 2019
  2. raVar

    raVar

    LOL. Made me smile, because that last part? My inner dialogue has thought that watching some traders ... many times, in many different situations. LOL

    Anyways ... remember ... guys that slung paper on the Floor? Generally? Usually you're talking about, not Specialists from New York, but Chicago. I don't know ... maybe it's just the crowd of guys I run with were all from Chicago from the old days. Although in the New York as well, you had pits (obviously, NYBOT, etc.). But I just think of Chicago due to my background. You're going to have to forgive me, I talk about the old days, I could go on and on.

    Well ... to make money on the floor? You're leveraging up.

    Doesn't matter if it was the old Potato Futures (yeup, there really was a thing ... ended badly too ... that Pit) ... or you were in Corn, or Beans. The point is, to make a lot of money as those guys did on the Floor? You had to leverage up. A lot of people don't know this, but back in the day? If you could trade on the Floor, you actually needed WAY LESS money ... if you were on the Floor. You leveraged up.

    And basically, that's how you could get murdered by a Fat Tail. Leverage.

    So it's no different than what the Swissy move did in '15 to folks. Even 1/4 of a move like that? With some amount of leverage?

    Call it whatever you want ... losing a car ... losing a house ... you were done on the Floor because you were murdered on a single trade.
     
    #32     Nov 13, 2019
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  3. destriero

    destriero

    lol ravar, what was your badge? What non correlated periodicity did you trade at NYBOT?
     
    #33     Nov 13, 2019
  4. raVar

    raVar

    In fact, now I'm really dating myself ... there used to be a trade back in the day structured around that leverage.

    Get murdered.

    Or make a million.

    They called it The "O'hare Express" Trade.

    It still exists in various forms ... when ones leverage up their personal finances for a binary event.

    Regardless, when he was alive ... that's why Charlie D mentioned turning to spreading.
     
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    #34     Nov 13, 2019
  5. heispark

    heispark

    #35     Nov 13, 2019
  6. dozu888

    dozu888

    I'd recommend -

    - buy QQQ and hold forever... establish a baseline first... a baseline so good that 99.9% fund managers can not beat;

    - on top of that, just observe at EoD, the news stories and the price action.

    this is the low-hanging-fruit way to trade... no wasting time on noise.
     
    #36     Nov 13, 2019
  7. destriero

    destriero

    Nobody called it the "O'Hare Express" trade. You've never seen the floor of any exchange.
     
    #37     Nov 13, 2019
  8. dozu888,

    I been buying the S&P500 every two weeks in my 401k for 10 years, maxing out. For a good ole boy as myself, it does not get any easier than this.
     
    #38     Nov 13, 2019
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  9. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    As others I'm pretty sure do make money, maybe your just a moron ??
     
    #39     Nov 13, 2019
  10. I watched him trade TSLA, it was a disaster. He just kept DCAing until it moved favorably.
     
    #40     Nov 13, 2019
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