No day trader on this planet can make yearly profits

Discussion in 'Trading' started by teewoods, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. trader1974

    trader1974

    I understand, thank you. Curious way of operating, long and short at the same time but with a bullish or bearish preference, I had never thought of it this way but it makes sense, so you are never totally wrong or totally right.
     
    #161     Nov 18, 2019
  2. trader1974

    trader1974

    However, if the day ends and you have not obtained a positive average, then what do you do, leave the operations open at night?
     
    #162     Nov 18, 2019
  3. Real Money

    Real Money

    The reason to trade like that is because you can trade very large size this way. You can do position sizes in the millions.
     
    #163     Nov 18, 2019
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  4. Eskiller,

    good point and very true. As intraday traders, even though my entry is based on trend of market structure of the moment, my STOP LOSS is always based on market structure. I am either all in or all out. Because once I place the trade and my stop loss, my edge is entered into the market. Now Mr. Market is king, and if it wants to go against my edge at the time I entered or if Mr.Market wants to go against my thinking at the time, I have to take my loss and respect Mr. Market.

    I Can ALWAYS take another trade.
     
    #164     Nov 18, 2019
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  5. Hello volpri,

    Question for your regarding fixed amount scalping.

    1. In your opinion or experience, if a trader have high probability he/she can scalpe 10 ticks per trade, would this be reasonable even if stop loss per trade varies between 15 to 30 ticks per trade?

    2. In other words, does R:R always have to be greater than 1.?

    Thanks
     
    #165     Nov 18, 2019
  6. speedo

    speedo

    If you have a well tested and profitable trade plan, you are never "wrong" when you take a defined signal and obey your rules. Some trades work and some don't.....that's trading.
     
    #166     Nov 18, 2019
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  7. trader1974

    trader1974

    Do you ever operate long and short at the same time?
     
    #167     Nov 18, 2019
  8. speedo

    speedo

    No, but I would consider doing so given a short signal in one market and long one in another but not as a hedge.....simply as two separate operations.
     
    #168     Nov 18, 2019
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  9. Hello speedo,

    You always provide logical unbiased trading knowledge from your own experience.

    Can you please answer this questions below?

    Question for your regarding fixed amount scalping.

    1. In your opinion or experience, if a trader have high probability he/she can scalpe 10 ticks per trade, would this be reasonable even if stop loss per trade varies between 15 to 30 ticks per trade?

    2. In other words, does R:R always have to be greater than 1.?

    I am asking because I think I found a trading strategy (still testing) where I can get about 10 ticks very often, but my stop loss will vary between 15-30 ticks, depend on price action locations at the moment.

    The concern is always read online "make sure R:R greater than 1" and "winners bigger than losers". It has my mind stuck a bit.

    Thanks
     
    #169     Nov 18, 2019
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  10. speedo

    speedo

    That would depend on your own testing, both back and forward. I would not personally risk that many ticks to make 10 but we are all different. It would require a high W-L ratio and that can be hard to achieve for small target day trades.
     
    #170     Nov 18, 2019
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