No AGW Say 20+ NASA Scientists

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. No we're NOT guessing. We see it in the past record that CO2 pulls up temperatures. It may not be the first cause but it does have a later effect. And we're are actually seeing it now in the modern era.

    Just because temp rise comes first does NOT mean that CO2 does not cause temperatures to rise. Please tell me you understand this or I will just have to give up on you as having any sanity or intelligence at all.

    I'm "guessing" you won't do that. LOL
     
    #71     Jan 29, 2013
  2. jem

    jem

    well we are getting closer..

    please show me where the record shows that CO2 caused the warming in the past record... and no the warming that was already happening.

    shakun attempts to do that but he makes conclusions from the numbers which are not necessarily warranted. The warming started the CO2 was released... the earth continued to warm... that does not mean the CO2 caused the continued warming.

    In more modern times...

    after WWW II did CO2 go up while temperature went down?
    has CO@ been going up the last 16 years... while there has been no warming which outside the statically error?
     
    #72     Jan 30, 2013
  3. jem

    jem

    Check out the 20th century temperature record, and you will find that its up and down pattern does not follow the industrial revolution’s upward march of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), which is the supposed central culprit for man caused global warming (and has been much, much higher in the past). It follows instead the up and down pattern of naturally caused climate cycles.

    For example, temperatures dropped steadily from the late 1940s to the late 1970s. The popular press was even talking about a coming ice age. Ice ages have cyclically occurred roughly every 10,000 years, with a new one actually due around now.

    In the late 1970s, the natural cycles turned warm and temperatures rose until the late 1990s, a trend that political and economic interests have tried to milk mercilessly to their advantage. The incorruptible satellite measured global atmospheric temperatures show less warming during this period than the heavily manipulated land surface temperatures.

    Central to these natural cycles is the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO). Every 25 to 30 years the oceans undergo a natural cycle where the colder water below churns to replace the warmer water at the surface, and that affects global temperatures by the fractions of a degree we have seen. The PDO was cold from the late 1940s to the late 1970s, and it was warm from the late 1970s to the late 1990s, similar to the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO).

    In 2000, the UN’s IPCC predicted that global temperatures would rise by 1 degree Celsius by 2010. Was that based on climate science, or political science to scare the public into accepting costly anti-industrial regulations and taxes?

    Don Easterbrook, Professor Emeritus of Geology at Western Washington University, knew the answer. He publicly predicted in 2000 that global temperatures would decline by 2010. He made that prediction because he knew the PDO had turned cold in 1999, something the political scientists at the UN’s IPCC did not know or did not think significant.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe...lobal-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/
     
    #73     Jan 30, 2013