Banning internal combustion engines isn't going to happen, so the MPG suggestion may only slow the AGW. I have spoken with ex-NASA area 51's on this, and they need way more money for fusion. Something like $100 billion so wait on Los Alamos or CERN. I require $100 million to finance geothermal power plants across Asia, if that'd help.
Can I think of the last time that happened? Surely some catastrophic event before the ice age? I mean, really, is the ice age something to fear? All right, I'm playing a bad devil's advocate, because if I'd have gone on, it maybe would have looked like I didn't understand the literature, when what I really have a problem with is whether that if AGW is manmade, which I now but did obviously previously agree on but for some reason had to discuss other causes of climate change, then what are we supposed to do about it? Nothing? Well, maybe some things out of symbology but it can't be stopped, and, yeah, I told some people awhile back what it's like to travel interstellar distances and I've said, may as well do that than try to clean this shit hole up...Say put the power of the sun as your engine behind your back then see if there's really a speed limit in outer space! Mind the big rocks!
George Will quoted a guy who writes for the WSJ. He says the question is how much money we will spend not to have any influence on climate change.
your quotes are lying about the consensus of pro global warming journals. I showed you there are thousands of scientists many of whom are climate scientists who dispute the accuracy of gw models. here is the place to start... Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society [9] Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences[10] Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999â2003), and author of books supporting the validity of dowsing[11] Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow ANU[12] Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London[13] Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute [14] Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes Graph showing the ability with which a global climate model is able to reconstruct the historical temperature record, and the degree to which those temperature changes can be decomposed into various forcing factors. It shows the effects of five forcing factors: greenhouse gases, man-made sulfate emissions, solar variability, ozone changes, and volcanic emissions.[15] Scientists in this section have made comments that the observed warming is more likely attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles. Khabibullo Abdusamatov, mathematician and astronomer at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences[16] Sallie Baliunas, astronomer, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[17][18] Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[19] Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland[20] David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester[21] Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University[22] William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University[23] William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy, Princeton University[24] William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology[25] David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware[26] Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[27] Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[28][29] Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of Mining Geology, the University of Adelaide.[30] Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University[31][32] Tom Segalstad, head of the Geology Museum at the University of Oslo[33] Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia[34][35][36] Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[37] Roy Spencer, principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville[38] Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center[39] Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa[40] Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown Scientists in this section have made comments that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles. Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks[41] Claude Allègre, politician; geochemist, Institute of Geophysics (Paris)[42] Robert C. Balling, Jr., a professor of geography at Arizona State University[43] John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC[44][45] Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory[46] Judith Curry, Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology[47] David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma[48] Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists[49] Scientists arguing that global warming will have few negative consequences Scientists in this section have made comments that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for human society and/or the Earth's environment. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles. Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change [50] Sherwood Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University[51] Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia[52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
Once again... I ask the agw nuts like fc a simple question. If all those scientists say man is causing the warming... Show us one study which shows CO2 causes the warming on earth. --- fc... this is from the same pro agw site you just cited... A 2012 study by Shakun et al. looked at temperature changes 20,000 years ago (the last glacial-interglacial transition) from around the world and added more detail to our understanding of the CO2-temperature change relationship. They found that: The Earth's orbital cycles trigger the initial warming (starting approximately 19,000 years ago), which is first reflected in the the Arctic. This Arctic warming caused large amounts of ice to melt, causing large amounts of fresh water to flood into the oceans. This influx of fresh water then disrupted the Atlantic Ocean circulation, in turn causing a seesawing of heat between the hemispheres. The Southern Hemisphere and its oceans warmed first, starting about 18,000 years ago. The warming Southern Ocean then released CO2 into the atmosphere starting around 17,500 years ago, which in turn caused the entire planet to warm via the increased greenhouse effect. Overall, about 90% of the global warming occurred after the CO2 increase (Figure 2). and here is the graph showing you http://www.skepticalscience.com/ima...cles_400000.gif
CO2 levels have increased so dramatically since 1990 (as the chart exemplifies) is probably because the population of the planet has increased from about 1.5 billion CO2 spewing humans to 7 billion CO2 spewing humans while we have been clearing more and more land for them to habitate. Just saying.
Except that the extra CO2 in the atmosphere has been proven to be from the burning of fossil fuels, it is NOT from human respiration. Just saying.
what a child you are... here is the entire quote from a pro agw website.. see what caused the warming... then they oceans released CO2... then shakun gets cute and argues the CO2 lead the change in the northern hemisphere... but the warming still lead the CO2 increase. he just sort of guesses his way around after that. A 2012 study by Shakun et al. looked at temperature changes 20,000 years ago (the last glacial-interglacial transition) from around the world and added more detail to our understanding of the CO2-temperature change relationship. They found that: The Earth's orbital cycles trigger the initial warming (starting approximately 19,000 years ago), which is first reflected in the the Arctic. This Arctic warming caused large amounts of ice to melt, causing large amounts of fresh water to flood into the oceans. This influx of fresh water then disrupted the Atlantic Ocean circulation, in turn causing a seesawing of heat between the hemispheres. The Southern Hemisphere and its oceans warmed first, starting about 18,000 years ago. The warming Southern Ocean then released CO2 into the atmosphere starting around 17,500 years ago, which in turn caused the entire planet to warm via the increased greenhouse effect. Overall, about 90% of the global warming occurred after the CO2 increase (Figure 2). and here is the graph showing you http://www.skepticalscience.com/ima...cles_400000.gif