Nixon Shock: 50 Years Ago Today

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by kmiklas, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. Oh, MMT. That clears up ... what?

    I have no idea what that chart that you posted says about M2 growth.
    I have no idea what the chart is even trying to say.
    Has anybody checked the data in that chart, see if it is anywhere near correct?

    Here's a chart from a private sector vendor (who pays for the data they gather, and charges for that data and charts they construct) on the M2 money growth the past 40 years. Stockcharts.com
    M2 is up more than 1000% in 40 years, and up huge the past 18 months.

    M2.jpg
     
    #41     Aug 23, 2021
  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    The M's 1, 2, 3 whatever are so skewed (derivatives, QEternity etc) nowadays that they lost any meaningful way of comparing them to the past readings.
     
    #42     Aug 23, 2021
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    I would ask you to consider the alternative. Do you want to save for a lifetime to be able to buy your own home? To start a business? Well maybe you wouldn't have to , you always have the option of being born to rich parents.
     
    #43     Aug 23, 2021
  4. Maybe the whole problem is that Fractional Reserve Banking is a creation of the government by way of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. While it may have done some good over the past 100 years, the limitations of that system (Fractional Reserve Banking) will now be blamed as a defect of Capitalism, which it isn't.

    During the 19th century (before the FED) the large quantities of capital were raised mostly through Corporate Bond offerings (RailRoads), and the holders could then trade them on the secondary markets as debentures.
    Instead of the FED seizing "nany-state" control of similar borrowing facilities, I think they should have just let the existing bond market expand to residential mortgages, and whatever other types of debt (unsecured, etc.) were needed. These things happened, in the aftermath of World War Two, and had good intentions, at the time. But you know what they say about good intentions.

    I have read that when the FED first started in 1913, its function was exclusively to smooth out the peaks and valleys in short term interest rates, which were due to the seasonality of the farm crop cycle (planting, harvesting, etc). The modern FED seems to have turned into quite the monster, hasn't it.

    But I am hardly an expert on this history. Just a quick thought on it.
    The defining source on something like this would be someone like James Grant (Grant's Interest Rate Observer), but I don't have his number on my phone.
    :D:D:D
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2021
    #44     Aug 24, 2021
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  5. comagnum

    comagnum

    Nixon took away the gold standard but gave us the 'whore on drugs' or was that 'war on drugs'?
     
    #45     Aug 24, 2021
  6. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Well actually the war (and whore) fought and on drugs started years before in Saigon. And who knew just say no would end it lol.
     
    #46     Aug 24, 2021