Nike becomes first NFL sponsor to take a side in Trump vs NFL

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Nike doesn't give a fuck what a degenerate like you thinks.
     
    #11     Sep 26, 2017
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    They truly think they are more important than they really are.
     
    #12     Sep 26, 2017
  3. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Any stock action for Target had nothing to do with the transgender story. This is just you projecting your own personal views on the world and selectively choosing data to fit that narrative.
     
    #13     Sep 26, 2017
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    You're wrong on that.
     
    #14     Sep 26, 2017
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  5. Wallet

    Wallet

    Chick-fil-a :thumbsup: :D
     
    #15     Sep 26, 2017
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  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I guess I just don't see the kneeling as some big deal that the internet's making it to be. I don't perceive BLM as being offensive to the average rational customer. On the upside, if their sales have shown substantial growth among the black community, then where's the downside in pandering?

    The whole Chic filet, wedding cake, tranny bathroom is apples and oranges I think. Most people recognize blacks should be treated as equal, I don't know if most people feel the same about gays. Be it because half the US is religious, or they just find it icky.
     
    #16     Sep 26, 2017
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I understand, but that's not the point. You and I may find it nothing to show concern or act about, but there are many who do. If you are running a company, your responsibility is to the primary shareholders of that company. Why would you ever risk the business to make a political point? You shouldn't.

    There's no upside to the financial being of your company.
     
    #17     Sep 27, 2017
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Really? You have proof of this?

    Target's sales dropped right after their April 2016 announcement. While it is technically impossible to say whether each customer who opted to shop someplace else did so because of the transgender bathroom policy, the facts are indisputable. Sales in Q3 and Q4 were much lower than expected. Sales loss and poor results led to the stock dropping. Prove otherwise.

    At the end of the day, this policy change provided zero upside, and all risk. And that's the point.
     
    #18     Sep 27, 2017
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Nike's shareholders care what the public thinks, whether or not they fall in line with race whistlers like you.
     
    #19     Sep 27, 2017
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Here is the smart way to answer the NFL controversy from a sponsor's point of view. Smart people work at these companies.

    Ford told customers that they “respect individuals’ rights to express their views, even if they are not ones we share. That’s part of what makes America great.”

    For its part, sports apparel giant Under Armour said it “stands for the flag and by our athletes for free speech, expression, and a unified America.”

    Hyundai, for instance, said “We stand for and respect individuals’ freedoms to express their First Amendment rights in any peaceful manner in which they choose. We also stand for inclusion, freedom and all that represents those values.”
    If you are responsible for the public message of one of these companies, you cannot not have a position, because you're going to be asked. The trick is to come up with a position that is neutral, saying something along the lines of "we respect and understand both points of views". That's how professionals respond.

    Personally, I find myself on the side of those finding these athletes juvenile and disrespectful, but I would never make a public statement at my company stating this, even though my industry is overwhelmingly in support of my view. There's just no upside.

    Idiots like Nine Ender and Tony don't understand that because they cannot overlook their personal views for the benefit of the organization they would be working for. It's about "me" not "us" with those two. That's how rabid they are.
     
    #20     Sep 27, 2017