Niederhoffer thinks "follow the trend" sucks

Discussion in 'Trading' started by GloriaBrown, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. monoid

    monoid

    What is the use explaining religion to an atheist? or evolution to a creationist? Seems to me it will be as meaningful as a dog barking at the sun!
     
    #201     Jun 23, 2015
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  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Or throwing virgins into the volcano :)
     
    #202     Jun 23, 2015
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  3. Butterball

    Butterball

    What do you mean? Momentum profits (trendfollowing) has been studied in academic studies for decades and has been found to return favorable risk adjusted profits over the last 100 years across all liquid markets, not just stocks. What is momentum trading inferior to exactly?
     
    #203     Jun 23, 2015
  4. I think Niederhoffer is very smart and knows a lot about the market, he blows up because he believes himself too much, always seek for very high % gain and too confidence that no need to even have a cut lose plan.
     
    #204     Jun 24, 2015
  5. I believe he said he wouldn't automatic trade and it is danger, may be he changed his mind?
     
    #205     Jun 24, 2015
  6. eurusdzn

    eurusdzn

    Well said, thought we lost you!
     
    #206     Jun 24, 2015
  7. Butterball

    Butterball

    That's the symptoms of a compulsive gambler. Niederhoffer viewed the markets as a giant casino, and he used statistical edges that allowed him to outplay the dealer. Or so he thought.
     
    #207     Jun 24, 2015
  8. The fact that he blow up twice proves that he is not smart at all. In the period that he made and lost all his previous profits (35% a year), i was more profitable than he. In fact everybody who did not lose money in that period was a smarter trader than Niederhoffer. Performance is the proof of being smart.
    Daytrader are always accused of not being consistently profitable, well Niederhoffer was not being consistently profitable too.
     
    #208     Jun 24, 2015
  9. I have been trading full time for over 20 years. I only trade stocks. All my trading is based on mechanical strategies. So far I have not traded one strategy I would call "trend following". Perhaps it's something wrong with me, but I believe tradeable trends are very hard to find in stocks. But I'm not saying others might have good "trend" strategies (I guess depending defining trends or not).

    (And no, I have never "blown up".)
     
    #209     Jun 24, 2015
  10. romik

    romik

    Is he ever? He just blurts out statements full of arrogance and self appointed authority. Who is Ms in the end of the day?
     
    #210     Jun 24, 2015