Niederhoffer In Trouble..... Again !!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by cosmokramer, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. before he lost it all and then some...my God, how many more times is it mentioned that he made money for years. Does it matter when you lose it all? Does it matter you went to Wharton but later end up as an overdosed drug addict? I dont understand your line of reasoning at all.

     
    #211     Jul 30, 2010
  2. It's human nature. They SAY they want to make a big return.. and SAY they are "willing to assume the risk which goes along with the try".

    But that's not what they REALLY mean in most cases..

    They place a big chunk of their money with the guy they HOPE is smart enough to make the BIG gains without losing their capital.

    Personally, I wouldn't entrust my $$ to anybody who had even ONE "blow up" on his big-money record, as it would show he had yet to learn the market's most important lessons.
     
    #212     Jul 30, 2010
  3. Yes, perhaps a more apt description would be placing the money in the trunk of a burning car about to go over a cliff. I love visuals, don't you?
    Meanwhile, VN seems to have a firm handle on how to make outsized returns by taking super-high-octane-outsized risk. However, those returns are only impressive when viewed while facing away from the flames at the bottom of the cliff.

    And downwind. Don't let the smoke get in your eyes. Hmm. Bad analogy. It seems the smoke did get in your eyes...

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    #213     Jul 30, 2010
  4. You're so naive. Odds are he lost nearly all of prior years' gains for all of his investors. THAT'S human nature, too.

    When investors are making good/big returns, they don't make significant withdrawals from their accounts.... they "let it ride"... generally ADD to their accounts, too. (Most of their other investments are likely sucking, so they don't trim back their one significant winner.)

    You're arguing like all you got is theoretical book learnin'. Stop it.
     
    #214     Jul 30, 2010
  5. care to show us proof other than anecdotal checkers lore?

     
    #215     Jul 30, 2010
  6. "Adjective?" Do tell.
     
    #216     Jul 30, 2010
  7. I thought all he did was sell otm puts.
     
    #217     Jul 30, 2010
  8. Yeah but in a very complex and esoteric way based on gravitational cycles, growth patterns of the desert willow, and aboriginal music beats...
     
    #218     Jul 30, 2010
  9. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Thoreau, if you want to restore a bit of credibility , tell us exactly how much you lost for your investors over the years.

    People would be more tolerant on this board if you acknowledge it, take full responsibility and stop hiding under aliases to justify yourself.
     
    #219     Jul 30, 2010
  10. Not to mention hundred-year-old books and LoBagola's elephants.
     
    #220     Jul 30, 2010