Niederhoffer In Trouble..... Again !!

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by cosmokramer, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. annierandy banned (surfer again). Please don't quote this lunatic in the future, as it makes my deleting his posts more difficult. Thanks!
     
    #181     Mar 4, 2010
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    #182     Mar 4, 2010
  3. Dear Gabfly,

    I can assure you the past, present, and future partners involved with Vic had no issues whatsoever with funds or such psychological issues. However, I do sense in you more than a scintilla of sardonic and yet at times acrimonious content. That is based on your previous posts. I remain amused but concerned for you...

    I wish to help you. Did you become so disillusioned with your own trading performance that you feel the need to castigate Vic without any merit or evidence? I do detect from your mordant and often trenchant posts that there is some unresolved issues inside you. You have indeed suffered much in your life, and the proverbial "chip" on your shoulder manifests as a giant boulder. Please do not attack Vic anymore because it is based on false pretenses. Rather, examine yourself and your need to engage in an onery fashion.

    I do wonder if you had blown out your account as of late, or endured some life crisis or painful experience. Usually, through my many years, I have noticed that the harshest criticisms towards me came from those who had recently suffered excruciating losses in trading or in life.

    I can endeavor to ameliorate your sentiments. I have "been there, and done that." I do not presume to know you nor will I patronize you. I only am curious as to why you attacked Vic with such an unabashed contumelious tongue.

    If you have indeed suffered in your trading performance or another area of your life, please do seek the counsel of your faith and in universal love and gratefulness. I am approaching the autumn of my own life, and I am concerned for you. I do not wish to take the topic off of trading, but I remain assured in my assessments. Please do understand that through adversity and difficulty, your character will be strengthened, and your spirit renewed.

    After reviewing your messages, I concomittantly feel a smile on my face as to your witty dialogue juxtaposed with a wistful sigh at the plight you may be laboring under.

    I say this with the utmost respect, and I feel that your attacks at Vic were not truly directed at him, but rather at an unseen force that you need to manifest your current bitterness. I forgive you, and I hold you as a friend on this earth. By the way, did you go to his website to elucidate your opinions about him?
     
    #183     Mar 4, 2010
  4. Very well announciated, 777. however, you are being far too kind to this malicious soul.

    Yes, Gabfly AKA Tdog takes his issues out on anyone he see as superior or elitest. He is a true man of the collective.

    A lazy middle class intellectual, a 21st century boyman who prefers the lukewarm safety of the hivemind to breaking out and taking real risk. risk is something he avoids at all costs.


    :D
     
    #184     Mar 4, 2010
  5. Your concern is most touching. Suddenly, this thread is about me and not about a man who has arguably succumbed to moral hazard by gaming the system to the full under the pretense of scientific observation and calculated risk. As it appears to me, the only calculating being done is on performance compensation with little or no regard to the inevitable and catastrophic downside associated with overleveraged risk taking.

    Yes, what is wrong with me? Only flawed people would find such conduct, coupled with crass attention-seeking behavior, to be distasteful. :p
     
    #185     Mar 4, 2010
  6. Hi surf, nice outfit. In anticipation of St. Patrick's Day?
     
    #186     Mar 4, 2010
  7. Dear Gabfly,

    I am not sure how to answer your last post. You have Vic all wrong, and I am not sure what amount of evidence you may need to change your mind. I am very close to Victor, and he is not guilty "gaming the system". He acted with the highest level of moral integrity and with the best intentions. Sure, he has had a couple of difficult years, but that is true likely of every trader. With a career as long as Vic's, how can you NOT have a few difficult periods? Besides, I explained the circumstances behind the couple of difficult years and noted the blame was not entirely his to shoulder.

    I am not redirecting this thread to you, but rather, to help you. I have read many of your previous posts, and I detected a level of animosity towards "others" in general. I would stop short of labeling you as misanthropic, but clearly you have deep seated issues. Please do not take offense at this, it is not meant as such.

    I wish to know if you have endured an illness, disappointment, or appreciable loss (financial or otherwise) in the recent past. Have you been frustrated, and had someone close to you let you down? You need not reveal anything in this public forum... though I admit I am curious.

    The etiology of my asking these questions is to uncover the real motive behind your scurrilous attacks on Vic. Realize that I am not "attention seeking", nor is Vic. Both of us are concerned for you, and care about you, as you clearly have been suffering for a time now.

    I say this again without any bitterness as to your false accusations and needling into my affairs and my integrity. I realize now that the difficulties in your own life likely has been looking for a target, and I will be gracious in being that target, but I will not "accept" it.

    You need to reach out and pray, meditate, and seek the higher consciousness that I know is in you, which is in all of us. Endeavor to empty out all of your own fears and past disappointments, and you will feel the love from G-d flowing within you.
     
    #187     Mar 4, 2010
  8. So are you a seed investor in another one of his comebacks?
     
    #188     Mar 4, 2010
  9. Again, thank you for your concern. The only "others" with whom I take issue are the arrogant and pretentious. It's a curse. However, I have learned to live with it by generally responding in kind to those who are so predisposed. I find it therapeutic.
    Vic? You mean the fellow with the ostentatious, pastel wardrobe? The man who, on the jacket cover of one of his books, wore a suit but no shoes or socks? That Vic? The one who didn't allow his traders to read anything but the National Enquirer? The man who named a daughter after a preposterous cartoon character conceived by Ayn Rand? (Francis Galton my ass.)
     
    #189     Mar 4, 2010
  10. You are too funny. :D
     
    #190     Mar 4, 2010