NFL says coronavirus outbreaks among unvaccinated players may lead to forfeits this season

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    I wonder if Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers decided to remain unvaxxed if the discussion would be the same?
     
    #51     Sep 1, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    How much would teams have to pay if they cut them loose -- and what are their value to their teams -- as well as what other players do the teams have who can replace them. There are a host of questions.

    But one thing is clear -- for this season -- it is unlikely teams will pick up unvaccinated players who were cut loose from other teams. Teams do not want to be in a position of increasing their risk of forfeiting games due to unvaccinated players.
     
    #52     Sep 1, 2021
  3. Wallet

    Wallet

    Exactly. If Cam Newton was the guy to take them to another championship we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

    Edit, Here’s a perfect example of natural immunity bias, nowhere in the NFL’s decision was any thought given to people who’ve recovered. Nor do they acknowledge transmission between those vaccinated.

    Purely politics, no real science.

    You want a covid free locker room, everyone’s tested twice weekly.
     
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    #53     Sep 1, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Well they screwed up having the guy who would take them to the next championship thing a while ago. Maybe they can call Tampa Bay and beg to get Tom Brady, who is vaccinated, back.
     
    #54     Sep 1, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    You just illustrated the anti data / anti science response...
    Which shows that this crap is far to political.

    When the data, from the best data set we have, shows that natural immunity is 7 to 13 times better than vaccine immunity..

    People who can show they tested positive for Covid... and recovered without spiking long lasting antibodies (which correlate to comorbidities and a weak immune system...) they should given gold standard passport for as long as the data holds up for that group. For all we know they could have decades long immunity.

     
    #55     Sep 1, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You are posting complete bullcrap again.
     
    #56     Sep 1, 2021
  7. jem

    jem

    you are a fucking liar.

    you were schooled on this just a few days ago you moron.
    so what are you claiming is not supported by science and data?


     
    #57     Sep 1, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Your claims that natural immunity is 7 to 13 times better than vaccine immunity -- is idiotic -- and not supported by mainstream medical scientists. This is fringe nonsense you are pushing.

    You know why the "green passes" (vaccine passports) are only good for 90 days after recovery from natural infection. It's because your immunity wanes so you can be infected and infect others again. This approach is driven by science.
     
    #58     Sep 1, 2021
  9. jem

    jem

    first of all you are lying your ass off about reinfection...90 days is complete horseshit... no scientist has ever said that... yet you have been lying about that for over a year.


    2.
    its from the best data set we have... the data set from Isreal.
    don't your read? or do you just go to your shill data base and post shit... which has not been updated?


    https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital


    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
    Israelis who had an infection were more protected against the Delta coronavirus variant than those who had an already highly effective COVID-19 vaccine

     
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    #59     Sep 1, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Your link actually states this...

    The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated.

    And not a thing about natural immunity being 7 to 13 times better than vaccine immunity.

    I will not the bold print in the title which says -- but vaccination remains vital
     
    #60     Sep 1, 2021