NFL says coronavirus outbreaks among unvaccinated players may lead to forfeits this season

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    We will just wait and see how these situation work out in court (assuming they sue) for the terminated NFL coaches.
     
    #31     Jul 27, 2021

  2. I dont think it will ever go to court. Watch the Vikings and the other team involved find a "solution"
     
    #32     Jul 27, 2021
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The latest news according to the NY Post. Other media is also saying he is leaving the team. Note the NY Psot says "The Vikings, as well as Dennison, have not confirmed the new report" in the article.

    Anti-vaxxer coach Rick Dennison will stay with Vikings after all
    https://nypost.com/2021/07/27/anti-vaxxer-coach-rick-dennison-will-stay-with-vikings-after-all/
     
    #33     Jul 28, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The NFL Is Reportedly Trying To Force Unvaccinated Players To Wear Bright Colored Wristbands
    https://brobible.com/sports/article/nfl-unvaccinated-wristbands/

    Unvaccinated players on two NFL teams to wear yellow wristbands at practices to distinguish them from vaccinated players
    https://dutytoamericanews.com/2021/...-to-distinguish-them-from-vaccinated-players/

    Steelers to require non-vaccinated players to wear yellow wristbands
    The Pittsburgh Steelers aren't cloaking their players who don't have the COVID-19 vaccine in anonymity. Rather, they're making them wear special bracelets/wristbands.
    https://footballscoop.com/news/nfls-steelers-making-non-vaccinated-players-wear-wristbands

    Buccaneers say they’re using red wristbands for vaccinated players, yellow for unvaccinated
    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...r-vaccinated-players-yellow-for-unvaccinated/
     
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    #34     Jul 28, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    With NFL taking hard line, all eyes shift to league's vaccine holdouts
    https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/...e-all-eyes-shift-vaccine-holdouts/5386498001/

    Najee Harris made headlines during the weekend at Steelers training camp even before he had his first carry in pads.

    It was not a headline that he or the team welcomed.

    Harris was photographed at practice wearing a yellow wristband, indicating that he has not started or completed the COVID-19 vaccination process. The NFL has ordered its teams to identify players who are not vaccinated, and the Steelers merely were following protocol with Harris' yellow wristband.

    The league has a good reason for its mandate and is absolutely right for issuing it: Its revenue dropped from $16 billion in 2019 to $12 billion last year because of the pandemic, according to Sports Business Journal. It is so determined to do better financially this season that it is all but threatening players to get vaccinated. It is clear the teams will cut marginal players — Harris is safe because he's a No. 1 draft pick with stardom likely ahead of him — if they don't comply. The NFL feels so strongly about this that it's even is willing to ostracize unvaccinated players from their teammates. It is hoping the teammates turn up the pressure on the unvaccinated.

    "We do not agree to the [wristbands] and think they are unnecessary," NFL Players Association president JC Tretter said in a statement Monday.

    Apparently, the NFL doesn't care what the NFLPA thinks about this issue.

    Nor should it.

    Coaches have lost jobs, at least temporarily: Non-playing personnel — that includes coaches — are required to be vaccinated. Minnesota Vikings offensive line coach/run game coordinator Rick Dennison and New England Patriots co-offensive line coach Cole Popovich have lost their jobs — at least temporarily — because of the COVID issue.

    More than 75 percent of the players have at least started the vaccination process. That number is believed to be much higher with the Steelers, even though Harris wasn't the only player wearing a yellow wrist band during the weekend. By all accounts, Mike Tomlin has been very persuasive when it comes to the vaccines. That's because he knows there is a competitive advantage involved.

    Protocols from last season have been greatly eased for vaccinated players. They can eat in the team cafeteria, work out in unlimited numbers in the weight room and meet in-person with their coaches.

    But unvaccinated players must follow the same protocols from a year ago. That means they can't attend meetings with their coaches and teammates. They have to do so virtually.

    All league personnel are required to wear contact-tracing devices while at training camp.

    Players and teams can be fined for violations of COVID protocols, same as last season.

    The Delta variant: The NFL knows that even vaccinated players and staff members can test positive for the virus, primarily because of the Delta variant. ESPN reported Monday that four players and 13 staffers have tested positive since the camps opened despite being vaccinated. The Indianapolis Colts announced Monday that head coach Frank Reich tested positive, although he is asymptomatic.

    Here's the difference between the way the NFL looks at positive tests among unvaccinated and vaccinated personnel:

    An unvaccinated player who tests positive must isolate for at least 10 days. A vaccinated, asymptomatic player can return to the team after two negative tests that are at least 24 hours apart and does not have to isolate for the full 10 days.

    Bottom line? The NFL believes a fully vaccinated player faces much less risk of COVID, at least less risk of becoming seriously ill. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 99.5% of COVID deaths over the past six months occurred in unvaccinated people, and 97% of the people entering hospitals were unvaccinated.

    Clearly, the NFL believes a vaccinated player will get back in the lineup quicker if he does get the virus without his performance being negatively affected.

    That's where the competitive advantage comes in.

    The NFL sent out a memo last week telling its clubs that it will not extend the season if there is a COVID outbreak and will forfeit games instead. Players on both teams in a forfeited game won't be paid.

    NFL applies pressure: It should be noted the league did not have to forfeit games last season despite major virus outbreaks among the Tennessee Titans and Baltimore Ravens. What the league hopes is that its pressure on the players to be vaccinated will prevent a repeat of the Steelers and Ravens having to play a game on a Wednesday afternoon at 3:40 p.m., as they did last season.

    "The threat of missed game checks is matched by the threat of lost revenue to NFL owners, so we all have a vested interest in playing another complete season," Tretter wrote.

    No, there won't be any forfeits this season. That is safe to say.

    That doesn't mean the NFL's strong message to its players isn't as clear as it can be:

    "Be a good teammate. Get vaccinated."
     
    #35     Jul 28, 2021

  6. haa the fact that someone in the organization took time to come up with color band idea ha ha
     
    #36     Jul 28, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #37     Aug 1, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Keep in mind that Ron Rivera, the coach of the Washington NFL team, is recovering from cancer. He views players refusing to get vaccinated as both a lack of respect for him and a threat to him.

    Washington has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the NFL. "After opening camp with just 60% of its players having received at least one shot, Washington now has a mark of better than 70%. The NFL's overall player vaccination rate is close to 90%."


    Ron Rivera sees signs of encouragement on Washington's COVID-19 vaccination rate, but coach still finds hesitancy 'befuddling'
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ngton-football-team-covid-vaccine/5457815001/

    Of course the Washington's COVID reserve list keeps growing... which is bound to impact the team this season.


    Washington adds Brandon Scherff, David Sharpe to COVID list
    https://fieldlevelmedia.com/latest-stories/?storyId=102845
     
    #38     Aug 3, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The coach can barely dig up a quarterback on his roster in order to field a team...

    NFL coach drags unvaccinated players, Americans after outbreak: 'I'm frustrated with ... everybody'
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/vikings-coach-drags-unvaccinated-players-americans

    Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer didn't hide his feelings toward unvaccinated players and Americans over the weekend, arguing those who choose not to get vaccinated "don't understand" the risks.

    After the team was left with only one active quarterback on the roster ahead of a public training camp session Saturday night, Zimmer expressed palatable frustration while speaking with reporters.

    "It's why people should get vaccinated," Zimmer said in reference to the isolated outbreak that led to several players being held out of practice.

    "Quite honestly, after everything we went through last year, I'm not surprised one bit," he continued. "I am disappointed that this happened. I'm frustrated with not just my football players who won't get vaccinated, [but] I'm frustrated with everybody [who won't]."



    According to the Minnesota Star Tribune, "Jake Browning was the only Vikings quarterback available for Saturday's annual night practice at TCO Stadium, after the team's other three quarterbacks were forced to quarantine by the NFL's COVID-19 protocols."

    The Tribune noted that starting quarterback Kirk Cousins and backup quarterback Nate Stanley were forced into quarantine after coming in close contact with fellow quarterback Kellen Mond, who had tested positive for COVID-19.

    The fact that Cousins and Stanley were forced to quarantine following contact with Mond indicates that they have not been vaccinated against the coronavirus. Under new NFL rules, vaccinated players are not required to quarantine after contact with infected teammates, while unvaccinated players are.

    "Something like this happens a day before a game that has a chance to get you to the playoffs or something like that," the head coach went on to say. "This Delta variant is rough. You can see the cases going up every single day now. That's why, for the sake of everybody's health, I think it's important. But some people don't understand, I guess."

    Later in the news conference, Zimmer praised sole active quarterback Jake Browning's intelligence. It was not clear whether Zimmer's comments were intended as a dig on unvaccinated individuals, but the inference could certainly be made.

    "Jake's really smart. He's vaccinated," Zimmer said. "That helps to be the backup. So, as we move forward here, he's going to get a ton of reps [Saturday night]. I don't go about saying, 'It's going to go a long way,' because we've still got a lot of camp to go, but we'll see. He's out there. He's available. That's important. It's important to be available when you're playing football, a team sport."

    The NFL announced last week that nearly 88% of players have received at least one dose of the vaccine. But the league's obvious push to essentially force vaccinations through harsh punishments for the unvaccinated has caused an uproar among some outspoken players and fans.

    Last month, Arizona Cardinals star wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins warned that the protocols may cause him to retire.
     
    #39     Aug 3, 2021
  10. jem

    jem

    if this not the ultimate logical fallacy....risk.

    There is a significant chance a young healthy quarterback is at risk from the vaccine than Covid.

    I just saw about a dozen kids deal with delta... it was a mild cough... or nothing at all.
    some were tested.
     
    #40     Aug 3, 2021