newbie how to make money off of 5000 grand

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by A.D., Aug 9, 2005.

  1. You people are losers. If anyone thinks they need to blow up an account to learn how to make money, you obviously did not do your homework before starting to trade. Since no one here can offer advice because they all lose, here's how you can start with 5k.

    *Open a margin account with a discount broker
    *read, read, read, study charts, study the overall market, all this you can get from your broker.
    *Learn about money management, you can search posts here or better yet just do a google search.
    *You'll need a strategy/edge to be profitable, you need to backtest it and make sure its profitable in the past, doesn't mean it'll work in the future but its a good start.
    *Papertrade your strategy for 30 trades.
    *tweak, optimize and perfect your strategy.
    *Start trading for real.
    *Keep your eyes open and don't get greedy.

    Good Luck
     
    #21     Aug 9, 2005
  2. DTK

    DTK

    Great post for someone who wants to learn how to trade and is willing to put in the time and effort, but the original question was for something that can happen "in a relatively short amount of time".

     
    #22     Aug 9, 2005
  3. Yea well, short amount of time won't happen. But there is a start, that should keep him busy. Unfortunately it takes time to make money """Consistently"""
     
    #23     Aug 9, 2005
  4. You need two elements to trade and make money, an edge(that is a strategy or strategies that will yield a positive result), and money management! (A little bit of luck wouldn't hurt either!)

    With your small account size, you should look more towards trading longer time frames (approx 6 months), and paper trade shorter time frames until you have both the capital and experience to make consistent money in the great game!
     
    #24     Aug 10, 2005
  5. Do you know where that story is from ?

    I'm taking a stock trading class and the instructor made a reference to that a couple weeks ago. I wouldnt mind reading the full story.

    Thanks,
    Tony
     
    #25     Aug 10, 2005
  6. rickty

    rickty

    Tony,

    See page 200 of "Trade your way to financial freedom" by Van K. Tharp.

    Richard
     
    #26     Aug 10, 2005
  7. Read 5X and memorize----- Trading for a Living by Alexander Elder.
     
    #27     Aug 10, 2005
  8. Take yout 5K to Amazon.com and buy:

    The Complete Day Trader
    The Compleat Day Trader II by Jake Bernstein
    Trading for a Living by Alexander Elder
    Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom by Van K. Tharp
    Trading to Win by Ari Kiev
    Electronic Day Trading 101 and Trading 101 by Sunny J. Harris
    Day Trade Online by Christopher A. Farrell
    Electronic Day Trading to Win by Bob Baird and Craig McBurney
    Electronic Day Trading Made Easy by Misha Sarkovich
    The Complete Idiots Guide to Day Trading Like a Pro by Jennifer Basye Sander

    The Mind of a Trader by Alpesh B. Patel

    Pit Bull : Lessons from Wall Street's Champion Trader by Martin Schwartz

    The Microtrading Revolution by Lawrence Black, Todd Hawley, Hawley Todd

    The Day Trader by Lewis J. Borsellino
    The Day Trader's Manual by William F. Eng
    The Tao of Trading, Bulls, Bears, and Millionaires, and The Intuitive Trader by Robert Koppel
    The Inner Game of Trading
    The Outer Game of Trading, and The Market Savvy Investor by Robert Koppel and Howard Abell
    The Day Trader's Advantage and Digital Day Trading by Howard Abell


    Those who say you don't need to read any books to be a better trader is lying because they don't want you to read and accumulate knowledge.
     
    #28     Aug 10, 2005
  9. Why don't you just do another auction on ebay Rip? Or have you decided to actually read the books now?
     
    #29     Aug 10, 2005
  10. OK, lets suppose the guy doesn't make any losses, and indeed makes a positive return in his first year... unless he is some kind of outlier, the return he can generate on $5k would barely be enough to buy a nice suit...
     
    #30     Aug 10, 2005