New York Times Objectivity

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Avid_Consumer, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Wow, you may or may not be in favor of Ron Paul, but the NYT is really showing some unmistakable bias today.

    Here's a summary of the primaries thus far, and Ron Paul is fully excluded from their summary. He took 2nd place in the state of Nevada, and is fully excluded from this NYT chart of the results.

    As I said, you may or may not support this candidate, but do take notice of the objectivity of this New York Times reporting. This isn't a beauty pageant, this a market dominant US newspaper's coverage of primary election results in the State of Nevada.

    http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/index.html
     
  2. The NYT excluding important facts?!? Wow, there's a first....

    Not.
     
  3. the NYT needs to lose the misleading banner font. it conveys an inaccurate level of journalistic integrity.

    it's not a newsflash to you, but i'm honestly surprised to see a factual misrepresentation of this scale in a voting chart. it's not editorial or even a story. it's just supposed to be a tabular summary of election results, yet it displays 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th place, with 2nd place simply unreported

    several weeks ago i picked up on anti-paul bias after the way they characterized him in a quote summary of an early GOP debate... but to me this is significantly more revealing than normal editorial bias
     
  4. What is the point of fair and balanced reporting? People too lazy to make up their own mind? The 50 cent butler? Tell me what/how should I think?
     
  5. fair question.. i mean a lot of typical ppl seek information from the mainstream press expecting it to be objective reporting. the editorial page supposedly exists to differentiate opinions from objective reporting..

    personally i would like to see news aggregation replace objectively branded single sources. google news approaches greater objectivity by citing multiple sources for similar headlines over the course of the day. they could improve it by aggregating a spectrum of contrasting views and presenting them together at the same time.

    then you also have the issue of msm vs independent across sources. even a diverse aggregator is still likely to contain consistent bias if all the sources are large corporate pubs

    anyway, manipulating a tabular representation of election results just seems over the line to me.
     
  6. I find it frightening that the mainstream media can simply declare a legitimate candidate not to exist. In this case it is worse because Fox News has also toed the mainstream media line and excluded Paul from any and all coverage. He has easily the most compelling story on the Republican side, an outsider doing far better than expected against a field that no one likes. But he might as well not be running, as far as the media is concerned.
     
  7. If the media doesn't present a candidate as electable, then the masses will not think he/she is electable. If people don't think someone is electable, nevermind why they think that, they won't want to vote for them, no matter if they agree with said candidates ideas.
     
  8. anyone that thinks the mainstream media doesn't have an agenda is a fool. they think you people are idiots because well... most of you are.
     
  9. hughb

    hughb

    The days of print newspapers are numbered. They only have a couple of elections left before they are history.

    But even after they are gone candidates like Paul are still not going to be elected. He isn't serious about campaigning. He could start by finding out how much the income tax brings to the treasury, (can be found in pie chart form on the back of the 1040 instruction book), before going on MTP to discuss it.
     
  10. sim03

    sim03

    #10     Jan 21, 2008